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    Great stuff. I saw that your wingard bet had already moved the market a lot, particularly with luxbet, so the value is gone, but that was fantastic value to find

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    Yep. Unfortunately the odds move very quickly on Luxbet.

    I've needed three accounts over the past twelve months. They just keep getting capped.

    Usually my bets are restricted to $50 and the odds move plenty when they are only partially accepted. Whether you think it's right or wrong, it's business and their terms and conditions state they reserve the right to cancel/decline/partially accept bets. I wouldn't say they're my favourite book, but I do use them to take advantage of these types of middling opportunities.

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    I'm the same with luxbet mate, if I go to put a 100$ on a prop bet they usually only except $50 and then the line moves...

    Do u just open another account under somebody else name?

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    $90 on Carlton @ $3.15 w Sportsbet ($283.50 return)
    $100 on Sydney @ $1.38 w Centrebet ($138 return)
    $50 on Sydney @ $1.37 w Bookmaker and $50 on Sydney @ $1.37 w Ladbrokes ($137 return)
    $290 spent


    If Sydney wins by more than 18 pts = $15 loss
    If Sydney wins by 1-18 points = $75 profit
    If Carlton wins by more than 20 pts and are leading at Half Time = $6.50 loss
    If Carlton wins by more than 20 pts and are trailing at Half Time = $93.50 profit
    If Carlton wins by 1-20 pts and are leading at Half Time = $93.50 profit
    If Carlton wins by 1-20 pts and are trailing at Half Time = $193.50 profit

    $90.90 on Cowboys at $2.10 w Sportsbet ($190.90 return)
    $60 on Sharks at $1.77 w Centrebet ($106.20 return)
    $50 on Sharks at $1.77 w Bookmaker ($88.50 return)

    If Cowboys win and are leading at HT and Sharks don't score 3+ tries = $10 loss
    If Cowboys win and are trailing at HT and Sharks don't score 3+ tries = $50 profit
    If Cowboys win and are leading at HT and Sharks score 3+ tries = $40 profit
    If Cowboys win and are trailing at HT and Sharks score 3+ tries = $100 profit
    If Sharks win by more than ten points = $6.20 loss
    If Sharks win by 1-10 points = $84.70 profit

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    $76.92 Manly win @ $2.30 w Sportsbet (return $176.92)
    $53 on Sydney @ $1.67 w Centrebet, $50 on Sydney @ $1.67 w Ladbrokes, $5 on Sydney @ $1.67 w Bookmaker ($180.36 return)
    $184.92 spent

    If Eagles win and are leading at HT and Roosters don't score 3+ tries = $8 loss
    If Eagles win and are trailing at HT and Sharks don't score 3+ tries = $45 profit
    If Eagles win and are leading at HT and Sharks score 3+ tries = $47 profit
    If Eagles win and are trailing at HT and Sharks score 3+ tries = $100 profit
    If Roosters win by more than ten points = $4.56 loss
    If Roosters win by 1-10 points = $72.36 profit
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    A few NFL middles for today.

    Carson Palmer Passing YardsPick: Under 240.5 and Over 215.5
    Agencies: Sportsbet and Centrebet
    Odds: $1.88 and $1.95
    Stake: 4 and 4


    Ben Roethlisberger Passing Yards
    Pick: Over 255.5 and Under 277.5
    Agencies: Centrebet and Sportsbet
    Odds: $1.87 and $1.88
    Stake: 3 and 3


    Russell Wilson Passing Yards
    Pick: Over 197.5 and Under 215.5
    Agencies: Sportsbet and Centrebet
    Odds: $1.88 and $2.10
    Stake: 4 and 3.6


    Matthew Stafford Passing Yards
    Pick: Under 289.5 and Over 265.5
    Agencies: Sportsbet and Centrebet
    Odds: $1.88 and $1.91
    Stake: 4 and 4

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    How did you go

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    Big Ben hit, so I won around five units overall.

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    NFL Middle:

    Mike Williams Receiving Yards
    Under 48.5 @ $1.86 w Bet365
    Over 35.5 @ $1.87 w Luxbet

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    NBA Season Middles.

    Denver Total wins

    Under 47.5 @ $1.90 w TAB
    Over 45.5 @ $1.98 w Topsport

    Milwaukee Total wins
    Under 30.5 @ $2 w TAB
    Over 28.5 @ $1.85 w Topsport

    Phoenix Total wins
    Under 21.5 @ $1.85 w TAB (this was $2.05 but market was suspended)
    Over 19.5 @ $2.20 w Centrebet

    LA Clippers Total wins
    Under 57.5 @ $2.15 w TAB
    Over 57.0 @ $1.93 w Betstar

    Orlando Total wins
    Over 24.0 @ $2.05 w Betstar
    Under 24.5 @ $2.00 w TAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    NBA Season Middles.

    Denver Total wins

    Under 47.5 @ $1.90 w TAB
    Over 45.5 @ $1.98 w Topsport

    Milwaukee Total wins
    Under 30.5 @ $2 w TAB
    Over 28.5 @ $1.85 w Topsport

    Phoenix Total wins
    Under 21.5 @ $1.85 w TAB (this was $2.05 but market was suspended)
    Over 19.5 @ $2.20 w Centrebet

    LA Clippers Total wins
    Under 57.5 @ $2.15 w TAB
    Over 57.0 @ $1.93 w Betstar

    Orlando Total wins
    Over 24.0 @ $2.05 w Betstar
    Under 24.5 @ $2.00 w TAB
    nice man, I sent ya an inbox bro

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    One that I have spotted

    Derrick Rose Total Points vs Miami
    Over 22.5 $1.91 Centrebet
    Under 24.5 $1.97 Sportsbet

    He hits 23,24 roughly once every 10 games

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    Middleman. Not sure about the last two bets only .5 between each selection. Tab seemed to have a few games that were 2games out to sportsbet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussieH View Post
    Middleman. Not sure about the last two bets only .5 between each selection. Tab seemed to have a few games that were 2games out to sportsbet.
    You are arbing with those odds as well though so the half a game is just a bonus I guess, I haven't checked what other books are offering so I couldn't say whether or not you can do better or not.

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    Fair point, Aussie.

    Brook Lopez under 19.5 @ $2.05 with Luxbet
    Brook Lopez over 17.5 points @ $1.83 with Bet365

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    Fair point, Aussie.

    Brook Lopez under 19.5 @ $2.05 with Luxbet
    Brook Lopez over 17.5 points @ $1.83 with Bet365
    He's under 21.5 at TAB. Couldn't believe that, he hits 18,19,20,21 20+% of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by micase View Post
    He's under 21.5 at TAB. Couldn't believe that, he hits 18,19,20,21 20+% of the time
    Nicely done.

    Here's a decent WTA Middle.

    Event: Simona Halep v Elina Svitolina
    Market: Total Games Played
    Pick: Over 17.5 and Under 18.5
    Odds: $1.97 and $1.91
    Agencies: Pinnacle and Sportsbet

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    Nicely done.

    Here's a decent WTA Middle.

    Event: Simona Halep v Elina Svitolina
    Market: Total Games Played
    Pick: Over 17.5 and Under 18.5
    Odds: $1.97 and $1.91
    Agencies: Pinnacle and Sportsbet
    Cheers mate, I also hit Oladipo to get exactly 14 points. He bricked a few shots in OT to remain on 14 at the end. Will keep posting in here if I find anything and we can make some money.
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    Hey guys not really my kind of betting but I enjoy the thread and possible opportunity. Will let you know if I see any plays.

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    Arron Afflalo NO vs Orlando
    U18.5 1.87 Sports Bet
    O16.5 1.9 Tab
    Not that good but should still be profitable

    Evan Turner Philly vs Washington
    U18.5 1.87 Sportsbet
    O13.5 1.9 Tab
    He hits this roughly 20% of the time, big play.

    Looks like TAB has limited me after 2 days. I can't even get on the Evan Turner bet.

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    One more decent one to come

    Jeff Green U21.5 1.87 Sportsbet
    O17.5 1.9 TAB

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    Here are some NFL player performance middles I've found for this early morning action. I have done past stats checks on all the players and these were the most profitable plays I could find. I'm not hugely experienced with this betting so I wanted to make sure I had a large edge before proceeding.

    I have played the Charles, Romo, Witten, Colstan and Brady plays for a little less than the others.


    Kansas City vs Buffalo

    Alex Smith passing Loss
    U240.5 yards $1.88 Betstar
    O222.5 yards $1.87 Centrebet

    Jamal Charles rushing Loss (2 yards over)
    U88.5 yards $1.87 Centrebet
    O81.5 yards $1.87 Sportsbet

    Dallas vs Minnesota
    Tony Romo passing Loss
    U305.5 yards $1.87 Centrebet
    O277.5 yards $1.85 Betstar

    Jason Witten receiving Loss
    U73.5 yards $1.87 Sportsbet
    O58.5 yards $1.8 Bet365

    New Orleans vs NYJ

    Geno Smith passing
    LossU245.5 yards $1.87 Sportsbet
    O218.5 yards $1.87 Centrebet

    Marques Colstan receiving did not play
    U70.5 yards $1.80 Sportsbet
    O55.5 yards $1.9 bet365

    Philadelphia vs Oakland

    Terrelle Pryor passing
    LossU226.5 yards $1.87 Sportsbet
    O208.5 yards $1.88 betstar

    Tampa Bay vs Seattle

    Russell Wilson passing WINNER!!
    U225.5 yards $1.87 Centrebet
    O203.5 yards $1.87 Sportsbet

    New England vs Pittsburgh

    Tom Brady passing LossU265.6 $1.87 Centrebet
    O240.5 $1.83 Bet365


    Lets win some cash
    Last edited by micase; 11-03-13 at 06:28 PM.

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    Atlanta vs LA Lakers

    Al Horford Points
    U18.5 $1.85 TAB
    O15.5 $1.77 Sportsbet

    He hits 16,17,18 at around a 20% clip.

    Adding

    Nick Young Points
    U12.5 $1.87 Sportsbet
    O11.5 $2.20 Bet365

    Guarenteed return of 1% of your optimal stake + the 12 point middle.
    Last edited by micase; 11-03-13 at 08:11 PM.

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    Mike Conley Points

    U20.5 $1.87 Sportsbet
    O17.5 $1.83 Bet365

    Hits this mark ~15-20% of the time over the past two seasons

    Nowitzki points

    U23.5 $1.90 TAB
    O20.5 $1.95 Centrebet

    Monta Ellis
    U23.5 $1.87 Sportsbet
    O20.5 $1.90 TAB

    Roy Hibbert
    U10.5 $1.90 TAB
    O9.5 $1.87 Sportsbet

    All are decent hit at 10%+ plays.
    Last edited by micase; 11-09-13 at 06:16 PM.

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    Well looks like Mike Conley hit 20 points to return 11.4 units for every unit risked, the Roy Hibbert middle only missed by one rebound as well.

    Any interest in the plays I've found for the NFL action tomorrow? I have about 7 I've found for passing/rushing that look good-excellent, let me know if you want me to type them up

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    Good stuff, Micase. Feel free to keep them coming.

    Did the TAB really limit you, or was it a glitch? I haven't know the TAB to limit people. What's stopping you from placing bets in outlets, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    Good stuff, Micase. Feel free to keep them coming.

    Did the TAB really limit you, or was it a glitch? I haven't know the TAB to limit people. What's stopping you from placing bets in outlets, anyway?
    They limited me to 30 dollars at the odds I wanted, then at $1.85 they limited me to a 50 dollar bet, then they dropped the odds to 1.65, all in the space of 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micase View Post
    They limited me to 30 dollars at the odds I wanted, then at $1.85 they limited me to a 50 dollar bet, then they dropped the odds to 1.65, all in the space of 15 minutes.
    They have been known to do that from time to time. I doubt it's an issue with your account, but please let me know if you continue to have problems placing bets with TAB. I might have to be a bit more careful if they start limiting accounts. As I said, you can always place bets in an outlet, but it's more annoying due to the inconvenience.

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    Blake Griffen over 10.5 rebounds @ $2.10 w Bet365
    Blake Griffen under 11.0 rebounds @ $1.87 w Lux

    Derrick Rose over 17.0 points @ $1.96 w Sportsbet
    Derrick Rose under 17.5 points @ $2 w TAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    Blake Griffen over 10.5 rebounds @ $2.10 w Bet365
    Blake Griffen under 11.0 rebounds @ $1.87 w Lux

    Derrick Rose over 17.0 points @ $1.96 w Sportsbet
    Derrick Rose under 17.5 points @ $2 w TAB
    Good to have you back Middleman, there isn't the man love that plagues Sando's thread but we'll get there. I have been finding without much difficulty 15-20 NBA/NFL player props every week and when you're regularly getting 17-1 (or more) odds on the money your risking I'm surprised there isn't more interest (easy money in my oppinion.)

    The books I've been using are Bet365, Betvictor, TAB, Luxbet, Centrebet, Sportsbet, Betstar (for NFL), any that I'm missing? They usually follow one another but you do get the odd numbers that make us the money.

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    Beware, if you are winning consistently on player props bookies will eventually limit you. Can't even play middles at Luxbet and Sportsbet any more as they've limited me to peanuts.

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    Yeah, I have been limited with Sportsbet (three accounts), Luxbet (three), Bet365 (two) and Centrebet (one limited and the other shut down). Goes to show you how good Betstar is not to shut clients down. It makes it hard to sustain it in the long term they limit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecattery12 View Post
    Beware, if you are winning consistently on player props bookies will eventually limit you. Can't even play middles at Luxbet and Sportsbet any more as they've limited me to peanuts.
    Don't worry, I have plenty of mates that would like to wager a bit more on player props. Although being hopeful that I do continue winning at these bets, how does Luxbet and Sportsbet go about limiting you? Sportsbet seems straight forward as you can see the max bet by hovering your mouse above the info button of the wager, Luxbet does not seem as simple (more bets seems to go to traders and take a little longer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by micase View Post
    Don't worry, I have plenty of mates that would like to wager a bit more on player props. Although being hopeful that I do continue winning at these bets, how does Luxbet and Sportsbet go about limiting you? Sportsbet seems straight forward as you can see the max bet by hovering your mouse above the info button of the wager, Luxbet does not seem as simple (more bets seems to go to traders and take a little longer)
    Yeh, Sportsbet will cut your max bet to about 5% of your original max and Luxbet will refer every single bet you make to the trader.

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    Luxbet is ****** like that. Their reasoning is they have a low risk policy on exotic markets such as player props. Well then how come when I have signed up in my mate's and dad's account, larger bets are accepted without being processed? It's only after a few weeks that their accounts have also been red flagged and every bet made now goes through for processing.

    Tom Waterhouse is the same.

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