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Old 10-24-07, 11:15 AM   #1
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Default Breeder's Cup Classic Saturday 10-27

11th Race - Monmouth Park - Saturday, October 27th, 2007 STAKES. 1 1/4 Mile Dirt. Purse $5,000,000. Breeders' Cup Classic Powered by Dodge (Grade 1). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD.


# Horse Odds Jockey Wgt A/S M/E Trainer
1 Lawyer Ron (KY) 5/2 John R. Velazquez 126 4 C LA Todd A. Pletcher
2 Street Sense (KY) 3/1 Calvin H. Borel 121 3 C L Carl A. Nafzger
3 Any Given Saturday (KY) 4/1 Garrett K. Gomez 121 3 C LA Todd A. Pletcher
4 Curlin (KY) 3/1 Robby Albarado 121 3 C L Steven M. Asmussen
5 George Washington (ire) (IRE) 20/1 Michael J. Kinane 126 4 C L Aidan P. O'Brien
6 Awesome Gem (KY) 30/1 David Romero Flores 126 4 G L Craig Dollase
7 Diamond Stripes (FL) 15/1 Cornelio H. Velasquez 126 4 G L Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
8 Hard Spun (PA) 8/1 Mario G. Pino 121 3 C LA J. Larry Jones
9 Tiago (KY) 12/1 Mike E. Smith 121 3 C LA John A. Shirreffs
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Old 10-24-07, 12:42 PM   #2
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Any Given Saturday was awesome in the Haskell on this track, but his last race was not that great although he did win. Hard Spun has become very good/game in his last two starts, running away from Street Sense and in the King's Bishop when challenged in deep stretch. I was not a backer of this guy in the spring and not sure he'll get the distance, so I'm sticking with AGS with Gomez although might play Hard Spun as a backup.
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Old 10-24-07, 12:47 PM   #3
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Any thoughts on Curlin?
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Old 10-24-07, 02:19 PM   #4
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i like hard spun always have but he seems to be impoving at the right time. breaking from the outside might help.distance a question but did come in second in the derby
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Old 10-24-07, 02:28 PM   #5
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like lawyer ron to but im waiting to see how the track is playing before i make my picks
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Old 10-24-07, 03:13 PM   #6
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He's a great horse, but he's one I just can't play or root for. The owners paid a ton for him after he broke his maiden, basically using the formula "what you can't do for yourself, just buy it."

I root hard against horse people like that. They just spend money to entertain themselves. They don't really care about the game, just want to impress their circles and get on TV.

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Old 10-24-07, 10:26 PM   #7
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Street Sense over Hard Spun and Lawyer Ron exactas IMO
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Old 10-25-07, 10:20 AM   #8
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Hard Spun was second in the Kentucky Derby to Street Sense. He was third in the Preakness Stakes, which was won by Curlin. And he was fourth in the Belmont Stakes. He and Curlin were the only horses to compete in all three legs of the Triple Crown. And while Curlin and Street Sense are sure to be shorter prices in the Classic than Hard Spun, Hard Spun has outfinished Curlin in two of their four meetings, and a victory on Saturday would even the score between him and Street Sense.
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Old 10-25-07, 01:16 PM   #9
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Playing Any Given Saturday unless speed is holding up on the track on Saturday. If speed is holding up I will throw Hard Spun out there. I don't think Lawyer Ron will show much on Saturday. Street Sense scares me a he seems to be in Kentucky Derby Form and if he goes out there like he did in the Derby, no way he will lose.
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Old 10-25-07, 08:18 PM   #10
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he would have to pass an improving hard spun
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Old 10-26-07, 02:40 AM   #11
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The last two times I bet on Lawyer Ron, he didn't even show. Ha, one time he was dead last. It's almost like he just gives up as they close in on the wire. Shying away from him. I like Hard Spun, Curlin and Street Sense. Oh course, now he will probably win...
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Old 10-26-07, 07:54 AM   #12
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I'm also on #3 Any Given Saturday 4-1 ML with a bomb #6 Awesome Gem 30-1 ML 2nd.
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Old 10-26-07, 07:55 AM   #13
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Good luck to all ... Looks like a good chance for an off track both Friday and Saturday.
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Old 10-26-07, 09:50 AM   #14
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My ass is still stinging from betting so much on Hardspun in his past races
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Old 10-26-07, 01:51 PM   #15
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Ok, let's box Curlin (with) Hard Spun.
G.L. everyone!

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Old 10-26-07, 07:35 PM   #16
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The last two times I bet on Lawyer Ron, he didn't even show. Ha, one time he was dead last. It's almost like he just gives up as they close in on the wire. Shying away from him. I like Hard Spun, Curlin and Street Sense. Oh course, now he will probably win...
when did lawyer ron come in dead last
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Old 10-26-07, 09:15 PM   #17
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I'm sorry bbyhill, it wasn't Lawyer Ron that finished last, it was Lava Man, I don't know what I was thinking...got my horses mixed up. Thank you for catching that.
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Old 10-26-07, 10:16 PM   #18
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I am going to take Street Sense on this one.
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Old 10-26-07, 11:13 PM   #19
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This Breeders cup seems to be about trying to figure out which horse will move up on the off surface. My feeling is that Hard Spun will be that horse in this race. Longshot look at George Washington
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Old 10-26-07, 11:33 PM   #20
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hard spun and lawyer ron
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Old 10-27-07, 09:14 AM   #21
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Hard Spun
Curlin
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Old 10-27-07, 09:45 AM   #22
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on hard spun as usual. I never learn lol
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Old 10-27-07, 10:10 AM   #23
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Lawjer Ron Will Beat This Field Today ,the More I Look At Racing Form The More I Like It,
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Old 10-27-07, 11:04 AM   #24
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I'm sorry bbyhill, it wasn't Lawyer Ron that finished last, it was Lava Man, I don't know what I was thinking...got my horses mixed up. Thank you for catching that.
i knew it was lava man because he did the same thing to me
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Old 10-27-07, 11:09 AM   #25
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curlin should love the slop
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Old 10-27-07, 12:36 PM   #26
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1st-Hard Spun
2nd-Any Given Saturday
3rd-Street Sense
4th-Tiago
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Old 10-27-07, 03:47 PM   #27
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hard spun lawyer ron $10 exbox
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Old 10-27-07, 05:25 PM   #28
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I'm playin 1,4/1,2,4,8. What do you guys think?
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Old 10-27-07, 05:48 PM   #29
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Curlin
Nice call. Hope you boxed it.

Looks like Sharktank and Bigneiler hit it too.

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Old 10-27-07, 05:50 PM   #30
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I gotta tell you. I really think Hard Spun should have won this race. Coming around the turn he was pulling away and Pino literally fell asleep on this horse. He never looked back. He never sat down on this horse until Curlin had the jump on him. Bad drive in my opinion.
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Old 10-27-07, 05:58 PM   #31
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boxed the 1 8 for my friend but i had the exacta 4/8
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Hard Spun
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Curlin : 1st
Win
10.80

Place
5.20
Show
4.20
Hard Spun : 2nd
Place
7.60
Show
5.80

$2 Exacta (4-8) Paid $70.80
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Nice call. Hope you boxed it.

It doesn't match to getting the first 5 winners of the day from 11 selections...but go here to find out more.

Priceless Breeders Cup 2007
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Old 10-27-07, 09:08 PM   #34
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5 winners in 11 selections? you picked like 2-4 horses every single race. makes it rather easy when u do it. pick 1 per race and I will be much more impressed
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5 winners in 11 selections? you picked like 2-4 horses every single race. makes it rather easy when u do it. pick 1 per race and I will be much more impressed
This is not about trying to impress. Logic suggests that it is more likely to correctly select the winner when having two or more horses on your side. Having just one may be more "impressive" but that is a word that should not be included in your handicapping process.

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