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  1. 02-21-10 01:51 PM #1
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    can you pick winnersby following the tote board and using the exotic pools and win show place money percentages?
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  2. 02-21-10 02:01 PM #2
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    All that shows you is where the money is .... if you bet every single favorite - you'd be very poor - very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhenom00 View Post
    can you pick winnersby following the tote board and using the exotic pools and win show place money percentages?
    You can. Ask Ultimateselector. That's his specialty.

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    is this guy still around???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    You can. Ask Ultimateselector. That's his specialty.

    Ultimate's "Ultimate Winning Plays" ... Sun ... 9-27-09
    He was pretty good with this as I recall.
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    better are 'will pays' on doubles, pik-3's 4's. That's the best way to find value horses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter10 View Post
    is this guy still around???????
    Google him. He started his own forum.
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  8. 04-06-10 08:48 AM #8
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    The issue I have with this method is two fold. First you have people that will bet then cancel the bet later. Plus there's the issue of a betting mistake someone bets a large amount on the wrong number or the wrong race track. Tracking mutuel pools is a valid handicapping tool but only one piece of a larger puzzle. The general rule of thumb is the track the early $ and late $.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thezbar View Post
    The issue I have with this method is two fold. First you have people that will bet then cancel the bet later. Plus there's the issue of a betting mistake someone bets a large amount on the wrong number or the wrong race track. Tracking mutuel pools is a valid handicapping tool but only one piece of a larger puzzle. The general rule of thumb is the track the early $ and late $.
    It sounds like what you are touching on is trying track the tote board, analyzing when and where the money is coming in, as a handicapping tool. From my understanding what the ultimateselector does is identify value from the tote board. He isn't trying to identify the best horse in the race, rather the best value, or the horse which is being under-bet relative to it's perceived odds of winning/placing etc..
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    Hello Fellas!

    Yup I'm still lurkin around a bit.
    If there is anything I can do to help please feel free to ask me anything specific & I will do my best to answer them for you!

    I only use my program that I developed that receives "Live" Odds & Pool feeds directly into my program.
    I then run that money thru about 60 different calculations to arrive at my selection(s).
    I never look at a form or anything else. I only know the horse by it's number & that's it. It's how I handicap.
    I just Handicap the handicappers!!!

    Best of Luck & See ya in the Winners Circle!


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    hi us nice to see ya visiting good luck to you
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    why not handicap and use your own knowledge
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    Using just the tote board would be useful in claiming races viewing the odds at 16 MTP, 15 MTP, and 14 MTP.
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    it is not easy that way
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  15. 04-15-10 09:38 AM #15
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    i believe there is a book that explains how to use the tote. i think the book is Handicapping the Wall Street Way: Picking Xtra Winners at the Track. amazon.com has it
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