[Dexter]

congrats boyz - you know the rules by now.

[bbyhill]

Starting bankroll 60 units picks 0-0-0
960 STL -1.5 +115 (2units)
953 SFO -108 (1unit)
957 HOU -109(1unit)
964 ARI under 9 +100 (2units)
976 Min under 9 +100 (2units)

Good luck Wangchiu

[bbyhill]

Starting bankroll 60 units picks 0-0-0
960 STL -1.5 +115 (2units) winner
953 SFO -108 (1unit) lost
957 HOU -109(1unit) winner
964 ARI under 9 +100 (2units) lost
976 Min under 9 +100 (2units) lost

Good luck Wangchiu

results 2-3-0 -1.78
total 2-3-0 bankroll 58.22

[wangichu]

Monday 8/17

KC +1.5 +104 (2 units)
PIT ML +115 (2 units)
LAD ML +147 (2 units)

SD ML +112 (1 unit)
OAK +1.5 +106 (1 unit)

[wangichu]

and good luck to you too, son of hank

[Dexter]

• Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.>
• ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
• all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
• all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
• we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
• no posts can be edited
• ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
• If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.

*once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.
additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

4x mets -200
2x giants -150
3x cards +180

*note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.

Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

Final Round:
August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker

[Dexter]

i included the rules again since some may follow along now that i made a thread about you 2 in the baseball forum. nice job fellas

[Dexter]

if any lurkers do want to look back at prior rounds results, the threads are all here in the handicapping contests forum.

[wangichu]

Monday 8/17

KC +1.5 +104 (2 units)
PIT ML +115 (2 units)
LAD ML +147 (2 units)

SD ML +112 (1 unit)
OAK +1.5 +106 (1 unit)

60 + 4.56 = 64.56 units

4-1

[bbyhill]

on a cold streak and can not seem to break it.Spending a lot of time on the horses.
total 2-3-0 bankroll 58.22
954 Pit under 9(2units)
968 Det +120 (2units)
958 Cin +1.5 +125 (1 unit)
960 Nym +1.5 +100(2units)
974 Cle +100(1unit)

[wangichu]

check your numbers, i'm showing:

DET ML +117
CLE ML -106
NYM +1.5 -108
and -102 on that under

[wangichu]

Tuesday 8/18

LAD -1.5 +135 (3 units)

FLA/HOU under 9 -120 (2 units)
PHI/ARI under 10.5 -110 (2 units)
PIT ML +106 (2 units)

TOR ML +140 (1 unit)

[bbyhill]

the 954 Pit under9 is +100

the rest are correct

[bbyhill]

Tuesday 8/18

LAD -1.5 +135 (3 units)

FLA/HOU under 9 -120 (2 units)
PHI/ARI under 10.5 -110 (2 units)
PIT ML +106 (2 units)

TOR ML +140 (1 unit)

check your # I have

966 LAD -1.5 +120 (3 units)

962 FLA/HOU under 9 -110 (2 units)
952 PHI/ARI under 10 +100 (2 units)
054 PIT ML +105 (2 units)

970 TOR ML +140 (1 unit)[/QUOTE]

[bbyhill]

all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), looked and relooked and think your lines are off, check again from son of hank.

[wangichu]

can someone else weigh in on this, because we are both claiming to be using sbr numbers and are still not seeing the same thing.

http://www.sbrodds.com/#/odds/mlb/wh...intspread.html
http://www.sbrodds.com/#/odds/mlb/wh...moneyline.html
http://www.sbrodds.com/#/odds/mlb/whole_game/total.html

I double checked them all and that's what i'm getting so if that's not where i'm supposed to go i need to know where the right place is.

Dex maybe?

[wangichu]

Tuesday 8/18

LAD -1.5 +135 (3 units)

FLA/HOU under 9 -120 (2 units)
PHI/ARI under 10.5 -110 (2 units)
PIT ML +106 (2 units)

TOR ML +140 (1 unit)

64.56 + 7.05 = 71.61 units (unit verification pending)

8-2

[bbyhill]

results
on a cold streak and can not seem to break it.Spending a lot of time on the horses.
total 2-3-0 bankroll 58.22
954 Pit under 9(2units) winner
968 Det +120 (2units) winner
958 Cin +1.5 +125 (1 unit) lost
960 Nym +1.5 +100(2units) winner
974 Cle +100(1unit) lost
3-2-0 +4.40
total
5-5-0 bank 62.62

[bbyhill]

Since they added the % the far left #'s can differ depending on how you have it set up.Looking at it the only way to see consensus #'s now is by cliking in the info area of each game,Is this correct?

[wangichu]

Tuesday 8/18

LAD -1.5 +135 (3 units)

FLA/HOU under 9 -120 (2 units)
PHI/ARI under 10.5 -110 (2 units)
PIT ML +106 (2 units)

TOR ML +140 (1 unit)

64.56 + 7.05 = 71.61 units (unit verification pending)

8-2

bad math, that should be

64.56 +9.17 = 73.73

8-2

as for the numbers, i have been using the numbers on the far left for everyone previous competition and they have been in sync with what each of my opponents have used. I don't know what the numbers given by clicking info are, but to my knowledge there is no reason why the numbers still listed on the far left are any less valid even with the insertion of the percentages, but when i load the sbrlines link, i just use the line listed on the far left under the column "opener"

[wangichu]

Wednesday 8/19

WAS ML +156 (1 unit)
ARI ML +162 (1 unit)
SEA +1.5 +122 (1 unit)
BAL +1.5 +110 (1 unit)

STL/LAD under 7.5 -125 (2 units)

don't like that board today

[bbyhill]

bad math, that should be

64.56 +9.17 = 73.73

8-2

as for the numbers, i have been using the numbers on the far left for everyone previous competition and they have been in sync with what each of my opponents have used. I don't know what the numbers given by clicking info are, but to my knowledge there is no reason why the numbers still listed on the far left are any less valid even with the insertion of the percentages, but when i load the sbrlines link, i just use the line listed on the far left under the column "opener"

That is the same lines I use far left under the column "openr" and they are different then yours on some and don't know why.

[bbyhill]

915 STL +105 (3units)
910 NYM +155 (1unit)
924 TAM under 9.5 +100 (3units)
925 SEA +1.5 +125 (1unit)
921 BOS +145 (1unit)

[bbyhill]

results

915 STL +105 (3units) winner
910 NYM +155 (1unit) lost
924 TAM under 9.5 +100 (3units) winner
925 SEA +1.5 +125 (1unit) winner
921 BOS +145 (1unit) winner
4-1-0 +7.85
9-6-0 70.47

[wangichu]

64.56 + 7.05 = 71.61 units (unit verification pending)

8-2

wednesday 8/19

was ml +156 (1 unit)
ari ml +162 (1 unit)
sea +1.5 +122 (1 unit)
bal +1.5 +110 (1 unit)

stl/lad under 7.5 -125 (2 units)

don't like that board today

73.73 + .22 = 73.95

10-5

[wangichu]

Thursday 8/20

CIN ML +126 (2 units)
DET -1.5 (played at +130, but SBR opener not listed) (1 unit)

[bbyhill]

Thursday 8/20
9-6-0 70.47
968 TOR +155 (2units)
959 FLA -115(2units)
954 PHI under 9 +100(3units)

[wangichu]

Thursday 8/20

CIN ML +126 (2 units)
DET -1.5 (played at +130, but SBR opener not listed) (1 unit)

adding

WAS ML +137 (2 units)
ATL ML +117 (2 units)
FLA/HOU under 7.5 +102 (2 units)
TOR ML +157 (1 unit)
CLE ML +139 (1 unit)

[wangichu]

wow, I can't find anywhere that even offered that under at even money.

[Dexter]

bbyhill - your lines are wrong...wangs are right. use this link, and the column that says "opener" is what you use.

http://www.sbrodds.com/#/odds/mlb/wh...moneyline.html

the consensus %'s that were added due not affect the column we use. wangs got it right.

[bbyhill]

my line on the far left under "opener" shows 968 TOR ml +155. here is a screenshot of my screen at 11:35 pm central standard time. for 8-20-09.

[bbyhill]

results
Thursday 8/20
9-6-0 70.47
968 TOR +155 (2units) lost
959 FLA -115(2units) lost
954 PHI under 9 +100(3units) lost
0-3-0 -7.30
9-9-0 63.17

[wangichu]

thursday 8/20

(win)cin ml +126 (2 units)
(loss)det -1.5 (played at +130, but sbr opener not listed) (1 unit)

adding

(loss)was ml +137 (2 units)
(win)atl ml +117 (2 units)
(win)fla/hou under 7.5 +102 (2 units)
(loss)tor ml +157 (1 unit)
(win)cle ml +139 (1 unit)

73.95 + 4.29 = 78.24

14 - 8

[bbyhill]

In my screen shot you can see Tor is ml 155 as wangichu has 157 whats up with that.

[wangichu]

In my screen shot you can see Tor is ml 155 as wangichu has 157 whats up with that.

Probably the same thing that netted you +125 on seattle +1.5 on Wednesday while I only took the +122 I saw listed.