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    Default Round 3 ~ Shoebox vs Wangchiu

    OK Guys - continue to send back your confirmations to me. Here are the rules myself and suicideking have come up with. Lets all do well, as i've tried to construct this towards the weighted gambling approach that i love to use. With the rules in place, these plays should mirror what you are actually wagering each day. Win or lose, this contest should teach you all about the beauty of weighted gambling with sound money management (no chasing)

    • Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.>
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
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    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    *once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.
    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180

    *note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.

    Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    Rd 2: June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker

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    think i may be a in a little over my head in this round, but here goes nothing...

    good luck shoe, let's get money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Saturday
    CIN ML +130 (2 units)
    60-2 = 58 units

    -2 units net "profit"

    0-1

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    Sunday 7/12

    SD ML +130 (2 units)
    CHW ML +110 (2 units)

    FLA ML -110 (1 unit)

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    Nice to see wang and I go at it, should be a good round!\

    Ill start posting my plays after ASG....what do you mean over your head? CK sais your good, thats some credentials right there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Sunday 7/12

    SD ML +130 (2 units)
    CHW ML +110 (2 units)

    FLA ML -110 (1 unit)
    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    adding

    CHC/STL under 8.5 -115 (1 unit)
    58 units + 2.6 units = 60.6 units

    +.6 units net profit

    3-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Sunday 7/12

    SD ML +130 (2 units)
    CHW ML +110 (2 units)

    FLA ML -110 (1 unit)
    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    adding

    CHC/STL under 8.5 -115 (1 unit)
    Quote Originally Posted by shoebox View Post
    Nice to see wang and I go at it, should be a good round!\

    Ill start posting my plays after ASG....what do you mean over your head? CK sais your good, thats some credentials right there!
    i have a little more experience with basketball. This is only my second season attempting to cap baseball and the first season i've stuck with it from the get go. I took a couple months break last year. So my money management in baseball is still a work in progress, and i've seen how hot you've been, so i've really gotta up my aggressiveness on certain plays and step my game up. Suicide disappeared so once i was up enough i could just coast.

    anyways... good luck man, it'll be fun either way.

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    7/16/09

    Phi/FLO over 9 -109 2 units
    Indians RL +102 2 units
    Dodglers -122 2 units

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    thursday 7/16

    LAA ML +117 (2 units)
    SD ML +117 (2 units)
    FLA ML -122 (2 units)
    LAD ML -122 (1 unit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    thursday 7/16

    LAA ML +117 (2 units)
    SD ML +117 (2 units)
    FLA ML -122 (2 units)
    LAD ML -122 (1 unit)
    60.6 - 3.32 = 57.28 units

    -2.72 net units

    4-5

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    7/27/09

    rays +105 2 units
    twins +112 2 units
    brewers +106 2 units
    white sox rl +124 2 units

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    Friday 7/27/09

    FLA ML +112 (3 units)
    MIN ML +112 (2units)
    CHW -1.5 +124 (2units)
    OAK ML +109 (1 unit)

    crazy... i almost threw that last unit on the rays because of the plus money, but i felt compelled to at least have half of my units be exclusive. Hopefully we're both just on the money train today.

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    7/18/09



    yankees -154 2 units
    buccos -109 2 units
    buccos RL +187 2 units
    Orioles +127 2 units
    nats +106 1 units

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    guys - what have you thought of the 15% rule.....next year, do you think that should be upped/lowered or stay as is? give me the % you would like based on a 60 unit roll for the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Friday 7/27/09

    FLA ML +112 (3 units)
    MIN ML +112 (2units)
    CHW -1.5 +124 (2units)
    OAK ML +109 (1 unit)

    crazy... i almost threw that last unit on the rays because of the plus money, but i felt compelled to at least have half of my units be exclusive. Hopefully we're both just on the money train today.
    57.28 + 2.81 = 60.09 units

    +.09 net units

    7-6

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    Saturday 7/18

    LAD -1.5 +127 (3 units)

    just got back from a birthday vacation witnessing my boys get slapped last night so tonight's pretty automatic in this one

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    oh crap, hat's supposed to be milwaukee, not minnesota

    please change that to MIL ML... my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Saturday 7/18

    LAD -1.5 +127 (3 units)

    just got back from a birthday vacation witnessing my boys get slapped last night so tonight's pretty automatic in this one
    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    adding

    SD ML +101 (2 units)
    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    adding

    ARI ML +122 (1 unit)
    MIL ML +123 (1 unit)
    60.09 + 8.28 = 68.37

    +8.37 net units

    11-6

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    sunday 7/19

    FLA ML +116 (2 units)
    BOS ML +117 (2 units)
    DET ML +130 (2 units)
    OAK ML +110 (1 unit)
    TEX ML +108 (1 unit)

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    Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!

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    sea -118 2 units
    wash +119 2 units
    det +1.5 -154 6 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoebox View Post
    Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!
    wow... that didn't last long... hell of a nice call on the +1.5... i need to learn when to fire on those.

    I'm adding 1 unit to the texas game, so my final play there is

    TEX ML +108 (2 units)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoebox View Post
    Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!
    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    sunday 7/19

    FLA ML +116 (2 units)
    BOS ML +117 (2 units)
    DET ML +130 (2 units)
    OAK ML +110 (1 unit)
    TEX ML +108 (2 units)
    68.37 - 4.84 = 63.53

    +3.53 net units

    12-10

    terrible play calling on sunday...

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    So for Mondays action July 20, 2009



    Washington Nationals -130 ............ 5 units
    Milwaukee Brewers +108 .............................. 3 units
    Atlanta Braves Run Line +137 ................. 3 units

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