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    Default Round 2 ~ SuicideKings vs Wangchiu ~

    OK Guys - continue to send back your confirmations to me. Here are the rules myself and suicideking have come up with. Lets all do well, as i've tried to construct this towards the weighted gambling approach that i love to use. With the rules in place, these plays should mirror what you are actually wagering each day. Win or lose, this contest should teach you all about the beauty of weighted gambling with sound money management (no chasing)

    • Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.>
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
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    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    *once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.
    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180

    *note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.

    Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    Rd 2: June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Good luck Wangchiu.
    you too man. let's make some money.

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    Thurs 6/11

    LAA ML +127 (2 units)
    NYM ML +101 (1 unit)
    TEX -1.5 +125 (1 unit)

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    Friday, June 12

    1) LAD (-105) @ TEX, 2u
    2) NYM (+181) @ NYY, 1u
    3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-118), 1u
    4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+100), 1u


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    Lines are from 5Dimes. SBR opening lines are not posted yet. I'll adjust the scoring accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Friday, June 12

    1) LAD (-106) @ TEX, 2u
    2) NYM (+189) @ NYY, 1u
    3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-117), 1u
    4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+103), 1u

    Adding:

    5) OAK (+142) @ SF, 1u

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Thurs 6/11

    LAA ML +127 (2 units)
    NYM ML +101 (1 unit)
    TEX -1.5 +125 (1 unit)
    down a quick 4 units to 56 units

    0-3

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    Friday 6/12

    PIT ML +123
    OAK ML +142
    COL ML -136
    CHW ML +122

    all 2 units.

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    Friday Results

    1) LAD (-106) @ TEX, 2u LOSE
    2) NYM (+189) @ NYY, 1u LOSE $#&%!
    3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-117), 1u LOSE
    4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+103), 1u WIN
    5) OAK (+142) @ SF, 1u[/quote] LOSE

    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
    1-4-0, -4.26u, 1-4-0, 55.74u

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    down a quick 4 units to 56 units

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    wow... down another 4 units to 52. I have to take my time to cap better than i did yesterday.

    1-6

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    Saturday 6/13

    CHW ML +114 (3 units)
    FLA ML +129 (1 units)
    LAD ML +113 (1 unit)

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    Saturday, June 13

    6) WAS @ TB, Over 9 (-131)
    7) BOS @ PHI, Over 9.5 (-122)
    8) LAD (+113) @ TEX

    All 1 unit

    Both of those overs have moved a lot overnight, each to O 10. I wish I'd made my actual bets last night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Saturday 6/13

    CHW ML +114 (3 units)
    FLA ML +129 (1 units)
    LAD ML +113 (1 unit)
    COL ML -107(1 unit)
    52 + 6.84 = 58.84 units total

    5-6 ... much better

    -1.16 net gain.

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    NYM ML +110 (2 units)

    FLA ML +106 (1 unit)
    PHI ML +118 (1 unit)
    KC ML +110 (1 unit)

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    Saturday, June 13 Results

    6) WAS @ TB, Over 9 (-131) WIN
    7) BOS @ PHI, Over 9.5 (-122) WIN
    8) LAD (+113) @ TEX WIN

    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
    3-0-0, +3.13u, 4-4-0, 58.87u

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    Sunday, June 14

    9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-110)
    10) SEA (+119) @ COL
    11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+160)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    NYM ML +110 (2 units)

    FLA ML +106 (1 unit)
    PHI ML +118 (1 unit)
    KC ML +110 (1 unit)
    58.84 + 1.34 = 60.18 units

    8-7 overall record

    +.18 units net gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Sunday, June 14

    9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-110) WIN
    10) SEA (+119) @ COL LOSE
    11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+160) WIN
    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
    2-1-0, +1.6u, 6-5-0, 60.47u

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    Correction:

    Sunday, June 14

    9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-128) WIN
    10) SEA (+122) @ COL LOSE
    11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+145) WIN

    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
    2-1-0, +1.45u, 6-5-0, 60.32u

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    Just running out hte door.

    Tuesday, June 16

    12) Giants ML, 1u
    13) Indians ML, 1u
    14) Rays ML, 1u
    15) Marlins ML, 2u

    I'll add the lines later.

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    Tuesday 6/16

    PIT ML +127 (2 units)

    COL ML -126 (1 unit)
    FLA ML +153 (1 unit)
    DET/STL under 7 +109 (1 unit)

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    SF ML -173? I'm guessing your play was before ervin santana was announced as out for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Tuesday 6/16

    PIT ML +127 (2 units)

    COL ML -126 (1 unit)
    FLA ML +153 (1 unit)
    DET/STL under 7 +109 (1 unit)

    60.18 - 5.26 = 54.92 units (i need to learn how to avoid the big dump day)

    -5.08 net "profit"

    8-11

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    WED 6/17

    ARI ML +145
    DET ML -115
    TOR ML +122

    all 1 unit (wish i had posted my CHW play, but oh well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    WED 6/17

    ARI ML +145
    DET ML -115
    TOR ML +122

    all 1 unit (wish i had posted my CHW play, but oh well)

    54.92 + 1.52 = 56.44 units

    -3.56 net "profit"

    10-12 overall

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    Thursday 6/18

    COL ML -115 (1 unit)
    CHW ML +140 (1 unit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Thursday 6/18

    COL ML -115 (1 unit)
    CHW ML +140 (1 unit)
    no net units thanks to the a-holes in the chi sox pen.

    56.44 units

    -3.56 net "profit"

    11-13 overall

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    Friday 6/19

    FLA ML +120
    MIL ML +120
    WAS ML -110

    all 2 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Friday 6/19

    FLA ML +120
    MIL ML +120
    WAS ML -110

    all 2 units
    56.44 - 2 = 54.44 units

    -5.56 net "profit"

    12-15 overall

    need to keep from running myself into the ground as my opponent seems to be letting me lose rather than worrying about winning.

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    Saturday 6/20

    FLA ML +100 (2 units)
    ARI ML +115 (1 unit)
    BAL ML +125 (1 unit)
    BOS -1.5 +130 (1 unit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu View Post
    Saturday 6/20

    FLA ML +100 (2 units)
    ARI ML +115 (1 unit)
    BAL ML +125 (1 unit)
    BOS -1.5 +130 (1 unit)
    54.44 + 3.55 = 57.99 units

    -2.01 net "profit"

    15-16 overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post

    Tuesday, June 16 Results

    12) Giants ML, 1u LOSE
    13) Indians ML, 1u LOSE
    14) Rays ML, 1u WIN
    15) Marlins ML, 2u LOSE
    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
    1-3-0, -3.66u, 7-8-0, 56.66u

    A combination of malfunctioning internet and a busy work schedule has kept me from spending much time on this in the last week.

    Monday, June 22

    16) COL (+115) @ LAA

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