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    Default ~ShoeBox vs therber2 (Round 1)~

    • the contest will run month to month, with round 1 being from Monday 5/11 until Thur 6/11. 6/12 will be left open for tiebreaker games and setting up the next round - with the next round starting 6/13.
    • ****Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 5 units (to win) for that day which can be broken up however you choose. The math comes out to 4.5 units (.15 x 30) but we will round up for any fraction > .50, and round down to the nearest unit for anything .49 or below. So if you are allowed 7.20 units coming into the day, you can play to win 7 units. 7.70 units – play to win 8 units. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    • Once down to 0 units, you are out of the match.
    ie of a daily record update:

    Monday 5/11: +5 units

    Net: +65 units

    ie of selections made:

    Monday 5/11:

    mets -1.5/+110 (2 units)
    over redsox 10/-120 (5 units)

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    can a mod pls change the participant here from danrman to therber2?

    thx

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    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    May 11 - June 9, June 10 tiebreaker
    June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker

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    May 11
    Bankroll: 60 units

    1.) White Sox +117 (risk 1.5 units)
    2.) Cinc Reds +107 (risk .75 units)
    3.) Giants -1.5 +140 (risk .2 units)
    4.) Mets -1.5 +115 (risk .3 units)

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    May 11

    5.) CHI/CLE o9 -115 (win .75 units)

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    In response to a private message with a question about what units represent,

    One unit bet on a -110 fave would mean betting 1.1 units to win 1 unit. Alternately, a 1 unit bet on a +120 dog means betting one unit to win 1.2 units. Sorry if that wasn't clarified in the main thread.

    Additionally, this competition is baseball only. All lines are taken as the opening lines on SBR, and the only valid plays are ML, RL, and Totals. No RRLs or parlays allowed.

    Feel free to send any additional questions to me or Dexter

    -SK

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    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.

    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180

    *note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therber2 View Post
    May 11
    Bankroll: 60 units

    1.) White Sox +117 (risk 1.5 units)
    2.) Cinc Reds +107 (risk .75 units)
    3.) Giants -1.5 +140 (risk .2 units)
    4.) Mets -1.5 +115 (risk .3 units)
    Quote Originally Posted by therber2 View Post
    May 11

    5.) CHI/CLE o9 -115 (win .75 units)
    therber - these lines are not correct. we are using the opening lines here at sbr (far left on the below link) make sure you attach moneylines with an over/under play. again, dont talk in terms of risk .2 units etc etc...no fraction bets - whole units only for simplicity.

    ie,
    1 unit (-140)
    2 units (+130)
    etc etc


    http://www.sbrodds.com/#/odds/mlb/wh...moneyline.html

    also, pick #5 was past the cutoff of 7:00 for the night games - sorry, i see it was a winner - but we have to stay consistent with the start times to have a clean contest.

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    actually, i see no reason why you cant bet 1.5, 2.5 units if you want....just get the math right!

    but again, just say

    mets -200 (1.5 units)

    giants +170 (3.5 units)

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    Error in Tuesdays Line on SBR - use the following line for the dbacks/reds game on Tuesday:

    Dbacks -210
    Reds +180

    Dbacks -1.5/+100
    Reds +1.5/-120

    over 8.5/+100
    under 8.5/-120

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    Quote Originally Posted by therber2 View Post
    May 11
    Bankroll: 60 units

    1.) White Sox +117 (risk 1.5 units) lose
    2.) Cinc Reds +107 [+180] (risk .75 units) win
    3.) Giants -1.5 +140 (risk .2 units) win
    4.) Mets -1.5 +115 (risk .3 units) lose
    So do I throw all of these out, and start over? If not it is -0.17 units.

    Bankroll: 59.83 (or 60.58 if you count the night game [I don't understand why the nightgame doesn't count])

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    May 12

    1.) Rangers -150 (6 units)

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    may 12

    pitt +1.5 -140 2 units
    los/philly Over 10 +100 2 units
    det -120 2 units

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    2.) FLA Marlins +130 (.5 unit)
    3.) STL Cards -140 (1.5 units)

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    Hey shoe, I guess this question should be up to you. Since I skrewed up the first day due to some technicalities do you want me to start today off at 60 or something else? I got it all figured out now (I'm pretty sure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by therber2 View Post
    Hey shoe, I guess this question should be up to you. Since I skrewed up the first day due to some technicalities do you want me to start today off at 60 or something else? I got it all figured out now (I'm pretty sure).
    I wanted to put 9 unit on the reds last night but I posted late, so I didnt. That was my biggest play of the season and I didnt get credit for the contest. Check the MLB thread it was there.

    Just start from scratch I wanna lose or win fair....

    GL therber

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    No problem then shoe. I'll say the bankroll is 60 units from the start of today. GL bro.

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    May 13 Bankroll 63.4 (+3.4 units)

    1.) St. Louis Cards -130 (6 units)
    2.) St. Louis Cards +130 RL (1 units)
    3.) Toronto B-Jays -110 (1 unit)
    4.) Philidelphia Phillies -125 (1 unit)
    5.) Giants -150 (1 unit)

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    May 13

    tam/balt Over 11 +100 8 units

    ytd totals -2.4


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    what a sick win that was on the total for us..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter View Post
    what a sick win that was on the total for us..

    It shouldn't of taken that long, but damn that was close....

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    Nice score there brutha. I gotta bounce back.

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    May 14: -9.25

    LAA -125 (1 unit)
    BOS LAA u9.5 -110 (.5 units)
    ASTROS -120 (1.5 units)
    PHI -135 (.5 units)

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    May 14 -6.93

    1.) TOR -110 (2.5 units
    2.) WAS -105 (2.5 units)
    3.) CUBS -170 (2.5 units)
    4.) CUBS RL +125 (.5 units)

    GL!

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    shoebox - update your record each day. easier for you then having to backtrack

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    May 16th CUBS postponed -.13

    1. Rockies -110 (1.5 units)
    2. BOS -150 (1 unit)
    3. COL PIT o8.5 -115 (.5 units)

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