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Old 08-27-08, 11:21 PM   #1
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Question Taking closing lines that are 3 points or more off of opener?

I was wondering if anyone had experimented with this, or if this had been studied before?

For instance say a line opens at +3 and moves to +6 at closing. Assuming no injuries or suspensions or anything unusual. How would one perform by always taking the extra 3 points or any extra amount, for that matter.

Thanks.
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Old 08-27-08, 11:39 PM   #2
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Not very well. The market is better than the linesmakers.
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Old 08-27-08, 11:42 PM   #3
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It's been discussed and some are pretty strong believers in doing something like that, but personally I didn't think they were well informed or that their arguments were very persuasive. Although, most of the arguments were centered around less movement(say 1 or 2 points rather than 3).

Plus, I doubt you'd find many plays that fit this description. For a game to move 3 points without anything "unusual" would be very unusual in itself.
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Old 08-28-08, 12:06 AM   #4
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You will see this frequently in the last week or so of NFL. A good team plays a meaningless game, and rests all its starters. Every one of them. Line moves of 3+ are not unusual, and the "better team" almost always loses badly. In this case, the line move is sharp.

research it, and tell me what you find. But don't bet it without some good data.
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Old 08-28-08, 12:25 AM   #5
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This thread is basically the same idea:

Outside The Box

It rightfully got moved out of the think tank, if that gives you an idea of how well this idea should work.
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Old 08-28-08, 12:41 AM   #6
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Quote:
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This thread is basically the same idea:

Outside The Box

It rightfully got moved out of the think tank, if that gives you an idea of how well this idea should work.
That's the one I was thinking of, couldn't find it though.
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Old 08-28-08, 12:45 AM   #7
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Quote:
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This thread is basically the same idea:

Outside The Box

It rightfully got moved out of the think tank, if that gives you an idea of how well this idea should work.
Why are all the "thes" in red in that thread it's very annoying..
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Old 08-28-08, 12:53 AM   #8
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because i searched for outside the box

use this

Outside The Box
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Old 08-28-08, 01:14 AM   #9
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Its actually a very informative thread Durito, now the first point may be off but the rebuttals are very interesting.
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Old 08-28-08, 01:14 AM   #10
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Fading moves is hardly the worst idea in the world. I'd certainly rather have the +6 than the -6.
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Old 08-30-08, 10:28 AM   #11
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If you would like to test your idea rather than just talk about it, Jim Fiest.com has opening and closing lines for most sports last three years in an easily accessable format.

http://www.jimfeist.com/
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Old 08-30-08, 11:04 AM   #12
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I did a lot of testing (and wasted a lot of money) on this a few years ago, and I couldn't find an advantage. Maybe there is something to it and I just couldn't find it, but I wouldn't be very optimistic.
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