[spongerat]

After Florida, it is evident that some coaches want to cover the spread. How many coaches do you think care about covering the spread?

[MarioBareseSP]

Think they don't care at all.

[ipickwinners]

its amazing how paranoid gambler are. step in coaches shoes, do u think they really care about the spread? thats the last thing on their mind.... they put in so many hours into coaching the dont give a shit about it

i love how gamblers think they know everything lol

[clowncar]

jim harbaugh would be a candidate. See sjsu and usc games

[guru-t]

SHIT!!I think Eastern Mich coach is a cand as well.The MFKR kicked a FG on 4th down against Ball st with 2:00 left in the game that I took a big hit on.If coaches are just worried about winning the game,then tell me what he was trying to accomplish besides the margin of victory.Most coaches try for the TD at the end of the game down by 25.If you have a good explanation for that one,please do tell.

[pags11]

Urban Meyer
Bob Stoops
Pete Carroll
Mike Leach
June Jones
Todd Graham
Jim Harbaugh
Mark Mangino
Mike Gundy
Jim Tressel
Mack Brown
Chris Ault
Rick Neuheisel
Rich Rodriguez
Chris Peterson
Bobby Bowden
Gary Pinkel
Bill Snyder (trust me he's coming back to KSU)...

[ipickwinners]

Originally Posted by guru-t

SHIT!!I think Eastern Mich coach is a cand as well.The MFKR kicked a FG on 4th down against Ball st with 2:00 left in the game that I took a big hit on.If coaches are just worried about winning the game,then tell me what he was trying to accomplish besides the margin of victory.Most coaches try for the TD at the end of the game down by 25.If you have a good explanation for that one,please do tell.

he thought his kicking game needed some work and wanted to let them get some GAME experience?? who knows.... but that is one explanation, there

[guru-t]

Exactly pags11!!!Especially Meyer when he kicked a FG against Miami to cause the Gators to cover.If he was just worrying about winning the game,he would've just took a knee and turn the ball over on downs.There was something like 30 sec left in the game at that time

[ipickwinners]

Originally Posted by guru-t

Exactly pags11!!!Especially Meyer when he kicked a FG against Miami to cause the Gators to cover.If he was just worrying about winning the game,he would've just took a knee and turn the ball over on downs.There was something like 30 sec left in the game at that time

this is not a good example at all. u dont know that when things r so close in the BCS Standings they put everything into consideration, as far as points for, points against, margain or victory etc etc..... every little bit counts in college football

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by ipickwinners

he thought his kicking game needed some work and wanted to let them get some GAME experience?? who knows.... but that is one explanation, there

It's possible but they were 2for2 in that game on FG att.If the kicking game needs work,that is something that you can practice all day every day if need be but that is a good explanation.the only one but a good one.Seems to me that they needed to work on the passing game more than FGs.That may be just a reaction to a game that Jacked my money off,but it's true.

[ipickwinners]

o for sure, as gamblers we always look to blame something when we lose and saying a game is fixed or coaches are trying to cover spreads is something i think gamblers will always do, its out nature. but like i said, maybe he wanted GAME GAME GAME GAME experience kicking.... that and kicking during practice is completely different, like i said who knows why he did it... maybe he was in on the spread...we will never know

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by ipickwinners

this is not a good example at all. u dont know that when things r so close in the BCS Standings they put everything into consideration, as far as points for, points against, margain or victory etc etc..... every little bit counts in college football

23-3 --26-3 The spread was Fla-22 I just think something is wrong there.20 pnts is a sufficient enough of a victory.That was also before the Miss game when Fla was 2or3 in the country!!!

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by ipickwinners

o for sure, as gamblers we always look to blame something when we lose and saying a game is fixed or coaches are trying to cover spreads is something i think gamblers will always do, its out nature. but like i said, maybe he wanted GAME GAME GAME GAME experience kicking.... that and kicking during practice is completely different, like i said who knows why he did it... maybe he was in on the spread...we will never know

True.Well said

[spongerat]

maybe but this doesn't pertain to me or any particular bet, i was just curious.

pags, are those suspicisions of yours? or do you know somehow

[pags11]

spongerat,

I have personally watched these coaches behavior at the end of games, which has led me to compile this list...I could go on and on, like the time I had Southern Miss +21.5 a couple of years ago in the opening game against Florida and when Florida scored to go up 20, they went for two (and made it)...who else does shit like that unless they know the spread?...I've seen June Jones keep throwing the ball and keep Timmy Chang in there in meaningless WAC game...what's most important is to study the coaches body language and facial expressions...anyone that watched the end of the USC vs. Stanford game knows what I mean...Bill Snyder was absolutely brutal at running the score up, and he probabably will be again if he comes back to KSU...remember that Mike Gundy has T. Boone Pickens at all home games and I know a lot of people that say Pickens bets on the games...these coaches know the number and you have to be careful in betting against them, because given the opportunity to cover, they will try like heck to do so...

[spongerat]

very interesting...
does the influence your betting at all?

[PingPong]

can you give me a mack brown example?

[wal66]

You can not think that a coach doesn't know what a particular line is on a game prior to play. I will contend that the initial point of interest is to WIN the game but when you have an ego and there are those that have tremendous EGO's and you have a chance cover a line you do it. Some do it more obvious than others but I feel confident that once the game is in hand the majority have it atleast in the back of their minds. Even the losing coach can't allow his ego to go and not try to come in under a number just to say HA!

[Crayzee]

i think every last effing one as well as all the players
i think they all got their peeps out in vegas laying down the money

the most amazing thing to me is all the timeouts in the last
minute of a basketball game which has long been decided and the only question left is the spread outcome

team is up 21 and the spread is 22

i always say coach is telling players which way game is "supposed to" end
"keep this thing under 22-make sure you brick the free throws"
and i think both teams/ coaches are in concert

[Dbldown11]

I dont think anyone is working together from opposite teams crayzee....but coaches (especially at big schools) know the lines, because they've got boosters to keep happy.

Boosters give a lot of money to football programs to keep them running, those same people bet on football games. So if a coach knows that someone that donates a lot of money to his program has 5K riding on a game believe me they know what the spread on that game is and they damn sure are gonna try to cover.

[mmike032]

Pags and Dbldown are correct.
Urscum Meyers is one of the worst IMO

[SportNut]

What about the Raiders/Carolina game? Oakland FG attempt at 54 yard line at last several seconds of the game, spread was Panthers -10, Raiders was down 11. Shouldn't try to get a first down or TD instead of Fg? I do think they know about the spread.

[Dbldown11]

no sportnut in the NFL coaches could care less about the spread.

in that situation oakland goes for a field goal, if they get it they can get an onside kick, and a touchdown to win. That had nothing to do with covering a spread

[guru-t]

It's' fuct up.You here some say that coaches are not aware of the spread, but then they'll turnaround and say they may use the spread as a motivational tactic like "You guys are 20-pt Udogs,nobody thinks you can win."My question is How did you know you were 20 pt Dogs.It is not the fact that they say dogs,It's the #they always put in front of it.I just think the games are played and if the situation presents itself in the end where one play like A FG will determine the Spread,then it gets dicey!!!Thas why I love "rocking chair winners'!!!!

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by Dbldown11

no sportnut in the NFL coaches could care less about the spread.

in that situation oakland goes for a field goal, if they get it they can get an onside kick, and a touchdown to win. That had nothing to do with covering a spread

tRUE DBLDOWN.hEY MAN,earlier in this thread,I talked about the EMU-Ballst game earlier.Thoughts on that one or the URBAN meyer kicking a FG against Miami with 23 sec left

[Dbldown11]

yeah Urban Meyer was obviously trying to cover the spread in that game.

As far as the Eastern Mich. game goes....if they are down 25 thats a 4 score game. If there is two minutes left and they kick a field goal they are down only 22 which turns in into a 3 score game. Obviously not enough time for Eastern Mich to win....BUT it is POSSIBLE so I wouldnt classify that as a game or a coach that was doing it for the spread. To come back and win that game they were going to need a field goal at some point no matter what

[guru-t]

That's a better response than----- maybe he needed to work on his kicking game.I wasn't buying that one.Gotta go check the B-ball board.I only play college,the NBA is the one sport that really scares the shit outta me.Spreads.Fixing.ect.The refs are way too involved in the game!!

[ZBOIZ]

i would have to say urban mayer

[clowncar]

Originally Posted by Dbldown11

I dont think anyone is working together from opposite teams crayzee....but coaches (especially at big schools) know the lines, because they've got boosters to keep happy.

Boosters give a lot of money to football programs to keep them running, those same people bet on football games. So if a coach knows that someone that donates a lot of money to his program has 5K riding on a game believe me they know what the spread on that game is and they damn sure are gonna try to cover.

Ding ! Ding ! ding ! we have a winner.

spot on.

[spongerat]

true, i think most or all of them must know. my friend who is a huge florida fan but has never bet a game in his life, knew what the spread was on the game this past weekend.

[pags11]

spongerat,

yes, I definitely factor in a spread conscious coach when handicapping games...

pingpong,

hmmm...where do I start with Brown?...in his ten years at Texas his spread at home, out of conference is somewhere near 75%...for example, this year vs. Rice the starters were in halfway through the fourth quarter even though they were up 5 TDs?...you can watch a game and the coach will usually pull his starters once the team is a TD ahead of the spread...I've seen him do it in games against weaker conference opponents too over the years...even saw him try to go for a TD a couple of years at Nebraska up 2 points, where he could have kicked a field goal to go up five (on fourth and 8 or so) and it appeared to me he was as interested in covering as he was winning...again, watch his body language as he has his hands on his knees with an intense look, yet they are up a ton of points...just something to consider moving forward...

[Lout84]

Originally Posted by Dbldown11

no sportnut in the NFL coaches could care less about the spread.

in that situation oakland goes for a field goal, if they get it they can get an onside kick, and a touchdown to win. That had nothing to do with covering a spread

Dbl, you are wrong about this game. I had money on Carolina during this game, and Oakland attempted a FG from 56 yards with .02 seconds on the clock, with no chance at getting the ball back and winning the game. It was highly suspicious.