[BigdaddyQH]

Can someone explain to me why Okie State is a 10 point dog to OU, a team that just got it kicked out of them by Texas Tech? Just exactly what is OU playing for besides pride. Okie State is playing for a potential BCS spot in the Fiesta Bowl. On top of all that, there is a strong possibility that QB Robinson will play in that game. I fail to see the logic in this line at all. Thoughts?

[tcarn01]

i am w/ you on this one. Joe public will be all over OU.....go pokes!!!!!!!!

[romanowski]

oklahoma covers

[Biff Webster]

The fact that OU is 65-2 at home under Bob Stoops sure doesnt hurt. I am curious to see how much OU will miss Ryan Reynolds on D. I think they lost their starting center too, I may be wrong though.

[southpark79]

Yeah I am confused as well. I am leaning Oklahoma State +10!

[BigdaddyQH]

Originally Posted by romanowski

oklahoma covers

Why? Tell me why a team that has nothing to play for and is all banged up covers such a huge spread against a team playing for a BCS Bowl? Here is another angle to think about. If Okie State wins and goes on to the Fiesta Bowl, that is an additional 14 million dollar payout the the Big 12. If they lose and go to another bowl, that payout will be between 1-3 million. Do you honestly think that the Big 12 is NOT aware of that? Do the math. With all of the terrible officiating this year, you must consider this possibility when you wager.

[Husker36]

I dont see how Oklahoma even WINS this game.... let alone cover.

[nj1035]

Isn't Zac Robinson hurt? Also the loss of Reynolds will really hurt OU against Okie State.......he is their main run stopper and Kendall Hunter is back and ready I believe. I think OSU is the play here but not by as much as you would think.

[angelodebo]

I like Okie St. too. But the fact that they are getting so many points is a little scary. I figured it would be 6.5, not 10 pts.

[bearmz]

: November 26, 2009

OU Landry Jones, QB
Jones replaced Sam Bradford after Bradford suffered a sprained AC joint in his throwing shoulder in the season opener. Bradford aggravated the injury against Texas and underwent season-ending surgery.
In eight starts and 10 appearances, Jones has thrown for 2,556 yards, 23 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.
Brian Lepak, OL
The junior walk-on from Claremore transferred from Colorado State. He will replace Ben Habern at center after Habern broke the fibula in his right leg against Texas Tech.
James Hanna, TE
Hanna is slated to start Saturday, and should share time with fellow tight end Trent Ratterree. Tight end Jermaine Gresham tore cartilage in his knee before the season began, and Brody Eldridge started at tight end, center and right guard before suffering a season-ending neck injury against Nebraska.
Hanna has caught five passes for 39 yards this season.
Austin Box, MLB
Box is likely to make his fifth career start, replacing senior linebacker Ryan Reynolds. Reynolds injured his hamstring against Texas Tech, and his status is doubtful for the season finale against Oklahoma State.
Box has 23 tackles and three tackles for loss this season.
Patrick O’Hara, K
O’Hara took the starting job during the Texas A&M game two weeks ago after Tress Way missed a 35-yard field goal and Jimmy Stevens had an extra point blocked. Way and Stevens had also missed seven consecutive kicks from beyond 40 yards.
O’Hara has made three extra points and three field goals since taking over, including a 47-yarder against Texas Tech


QB Brandon Weeden, Soph.
Zac Robinson is expected to start. But if the sore shoulder of the Cowboys’ senior quarterback doesn’t allow him to play the whole game, Weeden will be counted on to step in and make plays.
Weeden not only replaced the injured Zac Robinson and the ineffective Alex Cate but also played like he’s been the starter all along. He completed 10 of 15 passes for 168 yards and two touchdowns in a come-from-behind victory against Colorado.
Still, playing college football has been an adjustment. Weeden had been out of school for almost five years when he moved to Stillwater. He had traveled the country playing baseball. He had made his own way, even gotten married.
Weeden admitted after the Colorado victory that he hasn’t been much of a practice player. He said so without prompting, without hearing Cowboy coaches’ comments about how much better Cate has looked in practice than Weeden.
All of it is a bit unreal to Weeden. Even though he was in professional baseball and is now 26 years old, he has never experienced anything like this. The biggest stage he ever played on was during his first season in the minors; a game between the Yankees’ and Mets’ rookie-league teams drew about 15,000 to Staten Island.
"This is totally different,” Weeden said. "Baseball, I’ve been playing since I was 3, but there’s something different about running out underneath the lights.
"It’s almost surreal.”

November 24, 2009

Oklahoma State football coach Mike Gundy expects quarterback Zac Robinson to start in Saturday’s Bedlam matchup with Oklahoma at Owen Field
"They told me this morning he should be out there practicing full speed today,” Gundy said during the Cowboys’ media luncheon Monday. "I’m sure he will still be sore, but there’s not anything structural (damaged). He was throwing the ball over the weekend, so I expect him to be fine.”
Robinson took a violent hit from Texas Tech cornerback Jamar Wall in the Cowboys’ 24-17 win on Nov. 14. Robinson was limited in practice last week and missed OSU’s 31-28 win Nov. 19 over Colorado.
Robinson is suffering from a bruised right shoulder but is improving daily. A three-year starter, Robinson had his streak of 34 consecutive starts snapped last Thursday.
Robinson ranks third in the Big 12 in pass efficiency at 142.5.
Gundy said he expects Robinson to take most of the first-team reps during practice this week. Redshirt sophomore Brandon Weeden, the Cowboys’ savior during their win over Colorado, has moved up to second-team and will take the majority of the snaps with OSU’s second-team offense. Alex Cate, OSU’s starting quarterback against Colorado, will see time with the Pokes’ third-team offense.

OU has a 5-0 mark at home, a place OU has dominated the Cowboys since OSU’s surprising 16-13 victory in 2001. Since that upset, the Sooners have shellacked the Cowboys by a combined 143-40 points in three meetings.
The Cowboys enter Norman with a four-game, road-winning streak and a chance to complete a perfect mark away from Stillwater for the first time since 1945. OSU has never won five-straight conference road games.
The Sooners have faced five teams (Idaho State, Tulsa, Baylor, Kansas State and Texas A--M) at Owen Field this season. They have won all five games by at least 12 points and four of the five by at least three touchdowns.
Of that group, only one (Texas A--M) will go to a bowl game this year. And the Aggies are the only team with a chance to finish the regular season with a winning record if they're able to upset No. 3 Texas Thursday night. The Cowboys, however, will be the best team to come to Owen Field this season.
Their records make an obvious statement. The five teams are a combined 21-35 on the season.
On the flip side, OU's six foes away from Norman have fared much better. BYU ( L 14-13, -22’) , Miami (L 21-20, -7‘), Texas (L 16-13, +3), Kansas( W 35-13, -8), Nebraska(L3-10, -4’) and Texas Tech(L 41-13, -6)are combined 50-18 at this point in the season. Their only W vs. a weak KU team.
Only Kansas, which OU beat 35-13 Oct. 24 in Lawrence, hasn't already qualified for a bowl, but can with a win over Missouri Saturday.
The Cowboys, however, will be the best team to come to Owen Field this season. They're the ones in the running for a BCS bowl berth. They're the ones playing for a lot more than pride Saturday

OU has beaten cupcakes at home so far and their record vs. quality teams is bad. I don’t care if the games were not at home, OU stunk vs. stiff competition. Coupling with their injuries, I can see why the line is down to -8’ now.
Are you going to put money on OU with SQB Landry Jones? He’s passed for 2556yds, 58%, with 23/13 PTD/INT. His best games were vs. KST with 294-4/0 and TAM 392-5/1, the #’s 81 and 82 ranked Pass Efficiency Def’s. Vs Neb (#3 PED with 89.3 QB rating and 4 PTD‘s allowed), Jones threw 245-44.8%- 4.4 yd/rec-0/5.
OSU’s #30 PED with 114.4 QBR and 16 PTD allowed and #4 Rush def allowing 82yd/g and 9 Tds. OU’s #13 PED with 102 QBR- 11TD and #8 RushD with 91yd/g and 7 TD.
If Robinson's not OK for the whole game, 26 yr old Weeden does scare me as his replacement. How about an under 48' ?
GL

[HoulihansTX]

I agree OK St. or nothing.

[wal66]

QH, you mentioned something here that I've personally never even given ny consideration to. The money involed not for individual schools but for conferences as a whole. I know some might think conspiract theory but let's be honest here it does create reason to consider it. We think about look ahead spots for teams all the time. Who's to say conference officials aren't looking at the bigger picture as well.

Not saying it's factual but it is certainly plausible.

[wal66]

Romo, you know I have nothing but respect for you but could you give us some insight from your perspective as to why Oklahoma covers?

[BigdaddyQH]

Originally Posted by wal66

QH, you mentioned something here that I've personally never even given ny consideration to. The money involed not for individual schools but for conferences as a whole. I know some might think conspiract theory but let's be honest here it does create reason to consider it. We think about look ahead spots for teams all the time. Who's to say conference officials aren't looking at the bigger picture as well.

Not saying it's factual but it is certainly plausible.

I do not want to start conspiracy theories, but after seeing what has happened in general, and specifically in the SEC, one has to wonder. Another thing to consider. Officiating crews never work the bowl games that teams from their own conference are involved in, but the NCAA selects crews based on this. They take the number of teams involved in bowl games from each conference, divide that by 2 (because there are only 34 bowl games) and that is the number of crews assigned to bowl games. So if Okie State goes to a BCS Game, that may leave the door open for an additional Big 12 team to qualify for a bowl, and that in turn, may open the door for an additional Big 12 crew to work a bowl game. A long shot for sure, but after this year, I really do not think that anything should be ignored when it comes to officiating. Again, none of this is set in concrete, but when you are dealing with the NCAA and the BCS, everything has to be considered.

[Sirus73]

OU always wakes up and learns how to play football at home. I am from OK. and have watch every game. Trust me, They will not lose this one.

[BigdaddyQH]

Idaho Sate, Tulsa, Baylor, Kansas State, and A&M us not what I would call a star studded line up. A&M had to play New Mexico, Utah State and UAB at home just to get bowl eligable, and the others are not bowl eligable. It is a little late for this team to "wake up". They may, in fact, win this game, but can they cover 10? As a matter of fact, that line has now dropped to 8 in some places.

[MartinBlank]

It also may have something to do with the fact that OU hasn't lost at home in nearly 5 years.

They are approaching 30 straight wins at home. I think they are at 29 now----and Robinson isn't healthy.

[Sirus73]

look at how inconsistent they are on the road compared to home. Not playing this one but just saying...

[mmike032]

Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

Why? Tell me why a team that has nothing to play for and is all banged up covers such a huge spread against a team playing for a BCS Bowl? Here is another angle to think about. If Okie State wins and goes on to the Fiesta Bowl, that is an additional 14 million dollar payout the the Big 12. If they lose and go to another bowl, that payout will be between 1-3 million. Do you honestly think that the Big 12 is NOT aware of that? Do the math. With all of the terrible officiating this year, you must consider this possibility when you wager.

interesting angle you uncovered there.

and why are posters argueing OU winning at home.
wasnt this thread about OSU covering the spread

[titleist1604]

yeah not touching this one

[Sunde91]

Originally Posted by tcarn01

i am w/ you on this one. Joe public will be all over OU.....go pokes!!!!!!!!

Yeah, try almost 90% on Ok State.

[romanowski]

easy money

okie st + points was the biggest public dog this year probably lol