[pinnacle212]

Crusher do you have any first line lines for this game. i am thinking about taking Tech in the first half at home.

Do you have the strength of schedules for these two teams? The NC Defense may be a paper Tiger or there offense tires them out because they cannot score. I am leaning towards the latter. 7 points vs Tech loss, Virginia 3 loss, Florida state 27 loss they dont play defense anymore, 10 points vs uconn early in the season.


I know they both have played and lost to G. Tech.
NC 7 to 24
VTech 23 to 28

Do you trust VT to hold NC to less than 13 or less.
Do you trust VT to score there ususal 32

[Cougar Bait]

I think this line is too high...should be around -10 or 10.5. I'll likely be on UNC. 2 pretty good defenses, 2 QB's that don't make great decisions all the time...UNC's D is fast enough sideline to sideline to handle Taylor and I don't think they will give up the big play on the ground when he starts to scramble. If North Carolina makes a bunch of mistakes early I think you'll be on the right side of things here, but if this game is moderately close at halftime I think UNC can cover. Just my 2 cents.

[capainter]

Here's my writeup from another thread...

Don't be fooled by the FSU game, UNC's offense is lousy. However FSU, with all their injuries, has easily the worst defense in the ACC, so UNC was able to put some points up. UNC can run the ball some, but, when UNC had to try to pass in the last couple of drives to win the game, they couldn't move the ball at all. VT's defense is solid - the only teams that were able to put up many points against them in conference play, GT & Duke, both have good offenses. I'm not worrying about VT's pass defense as UNC couldn't pass on the worst D in the conference, I'm focusing here on VT's rushing defense. They played GT last week who has averaged about 300 yards this year on the ground with the option and allowed just about that 300. However, GT is a very good team and has played much, much better in the past couple of weeks than they did early in the year, so this doesn't scare me.

I look for UNC to move the ball a little primarily with the run but not up and down the field. I'd say they're good for between 10-14 pts, maybe a little more with if they can get some good field position through turnovers or special teams, a little less if VT really comes to play on Thursday night in Blacksburg coming off a tough loss to GT.

I think the overwhelming factor here though is the VT offense. They have been putting up lots of points lately, and I think would have scored more at GT but the option game controlled the clock and kept their offense off the field. GT had the ball for twice as long, VT put up 23 pts in 20 minutes on the field. UNC not going to be able to control the ball like that.

I think the UNC defense is a bit overrated, FSU has a nice offense but when they executed last week UNC had zero chance at stopping them. Take into account VT's extra motivation coming off a loss to GT and a home Thursday night game and I don't see them putting up any less than 35 pts. Other than Matt Ryan beating them two years ago, VT has fared really well in these games and I think is in a great spot for a blowout here.

I see this going to VT by 20, with it not being much of a contest, and over the 42 which seems a bit low. Will probably tease it to VT -10ish and over 36ish to give myself some room for error, although I'm a big ACC fan, have seen both of these teams play all year and think I have a good read on this one. Good luck.

[jmp]

you don't like the -16 so VT with +16 is the better play?

[shantystar]

yes VT -16 is a good one.jump he is saying VT -16 not +16?first understand the thread than bark

[jmp]

yes VT -16 is a good one.jump he is saying VT -16 not +16?first understand the thread than bark

If I don't understand something I'm going to ask.

Line said he's going to do the teaser and make VT -6 which means VT -16 is not strong so that assume NC +16 is a stronger play correct?

(in my last post i meant NC not VC because I got the teams and lines confused)

[94orchard]

I too think UNC +16 is the play here. Their defense is good enough to keep them in most games, especially against an inconsistent offense like V. Tech.
Honestly, I think I'm going to stay away from this one, but if I had to take someone it would be UNC.

[minzino]

who would you take first half vt to cover or north carolina??

[BigdaddyQH]

North Carolina has a terrible offense, which was held to 12 points or less by UConn, Ga.Tech, and Virginia,not exactly your defensive powerhouses. I would play Va. Tech especially since the number has not gone to 17 yet. We got this game at the opening line of -13.5. I do not know if UNC scores in this game. Va Tech sure will.

[pinnacle212]

You are wrong Shanty Star. What line crusher is talking about is the teaser he has above that is why he say -6.

[pinnacle212]

I think it may be something like -9.5 points for the half. If I had to do it, emphasis on had, I would take Tech. I was hoping to steal the first quarter.

[ZBOIZ]

I think -16 is way to many points, and here is my reason North Carolina defense is real good and they are going against a offense that don't put a lot of points up against good defenses. this game can show some resemblance of the Tenny and Bama game. I would stay away from laying the major chalk. North Carolina has a SEC speed type defense.
the points or nothing is were I'm leaning right now!

[ZBOIZ]

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[Boddhissatva]

Yeah, I have VTECH winning this easily...but 16.5 points seems to high.

[capainter]

Here's my writeup from another thread...

Don't be fooled by the FSU game, UNC's offense is lousy. However FSU, with all their injuries, has easily the worst defense in the ACC, so UNC was able to put some points up. UNC can run the ball some, but, when UNC had to try to pass in the last couple of drives to win the game, they couldn't move the ball at all. VT's defense is solid - the only teams that were able to put up many points against them in conference play, GT & Duke, both have good offenses. I'm not worrying about VT's pass defense as UNC couldn't pass on the worst D in the conference, I'm focusing here on VT's rushing defense. They played GT last week who has averaged about 300 yards this year on the ground with the option and allowed just about that 300. However, GT is a very good team and has played much, much better in the past couple of weeks than they did early in the year, so this doesn't scare me.

I look for UNC to move the ball a little primarily with the run but not up and down the field. I'd say they're good for between 10-14 pts, maybe a little more with if they can get some good field position through turnovers or special teams, a little less if VT really comes to play on Thursday night in Blacksburg coming off a tough loss to GT.

I think the overwhelming factor here though is the VT offense. They have been putting up lots of points lately, and I think would have scored more at GT but the option game controlled the clock and kept their offense off the field. GT had the ball for twice as long, VT put up 23 pts in 20 minutes on the field. UNC not going to be able to control the ball like that.

I think the UNC defense is a bit overrated, FSU has a nice offense but when they executed last week UNC had zero chance at stopping them. Take into account VT's extra motivation coming off a loss to GT and a home Thursday night game and I don't see them putting up any less than 35 pts. Other than Matt Ryan beating them two years ago, VT has fared really well in these games and I think is in a great spot for a blowout here.

I see this going to VT by 20, with it not being much of a contest, and over the 42 which seems a bit low. Will probably tease it to VT -10ish and over 36ish to give myself some room for error, although I'm a big ACC fan, have seen both of these teams play all year and think I have a good read on this one. Good luck.

[BillAccpetor]

Virginia Tech (-14)

[wal66]

I think -16 is way to many points, and here is my reason North Carolina defense is real good and they are going against a offense that don't put a lot of points up against good defenses. this game can show some resemblance of the Tenny and Bama game. I would stay away from laying the major chalk. North Carolina has a SEC speed type defense.
the points or nothing is were I'm leaning right now!

Z..............your writng skills are vastly improved.

[wal66]

Crush........I'm staying away here but if I were forced to make a play I would lean towards V-Tech so good luck with your play guy.

[ZBOIZ]

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[22dsnyd22]

Sweet Ive only been betting on sports for 2 years. Call me an idiot, but i never knew you could tease the over under parlayed with the line. WOW! opens up whole new window of oppurtunity

[capainter]

Sweet Ive only been betting on sports for 2 years. Call me an idiot, but i never knew you could tease the over under parlayed with the line. WOW! opens up whole new window of oppurtunity

Yep, good for betting games that you don't necessarily like a side or total play on and pretty much agree with the bookmakers, but still want some action.

I will say that I don't normally bet teasers except for small $$ on games that I just want action on (MNF, Thursday nite college, etc), and that I think they are generally a smarter play in the NFL than they are in college ball.

[Cougar Bait]

i got it at -6 you guys really have to start reading the thread not the post prior to commenting

Didn't see you had teased it. It was early in the morning. Good luck...I'll just stop right there since I want to stay out of arguments with other posters.

[mdemps9190]

line crush er your posts are horribly difficult to follow. Why can't you just post like a normal person?

[Gundog]

I'm on Tech minus all them points tonight.
Good Luck