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Old 08-31-09, 01:42 PM   #1
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Okay goodies are out here for the taking and I have a few plays for the 1st week in mind now that I have had time to look at lne movement. I have made a few changes from the original leans as the lines have made some things abundantly clear.

Friday 9/4/09

Oregon+5.5 I already made this play based upon the fact that Oregon is a BCS team and Boise State is NOT. The Broncos can move the ball against anybody for sure, but Oregon has great overall team speed and lots of unknowns who can run like the dickens.

Saturday 9/5/09

Toledo+11 The steam on this game is hard to ignore as the consensus shows that bettors are all over the Boilers despite their horrid defensive numbers. Toledo is no better, and this onje looks like a shootout waiting to happen.

Georgia+5.5 I jumped ship on Okie State on this game after I looked into their defensive numbers. Georgia plays real defense in a really tough conference. The Big12 always has problems with SEC teams and Georgia is a good one that is well coached. They lost quite a bit on the ofensive side of the ball with Stafford and Moreno gone out of the fold, but Richt never leaves the cupboards empty. Despite what looks like a shootout on paper, I think that this will be a tough grind it out type of game. If Zach Robinson has time to throw, the Cowboys win by a field goal and give me the cover. If e doesn't have time to throw, the Dogs will win outright.

Connecticut/Ohio under 46.5 This game was assigned too high of a total to begin with and now the linemaker is trying to shorten the opportunity for cash. No such luck. CK spotted it and is on it. The Huskies run the ball and stop the run too. I don't think that Ohio will score more than 10 points in this game. Because of their style, the Huskies will score 31 and the 41 combined points will get me under the total.

Army+5 Now I now that this play looks crazy. But I actually believe that the Cadets will be able to run the ball on Eastern Michigan and actually come out with the outright win. The Service Academy teams are some of my favorite teams to wager with because they don't participate in some of the vices that players from other well known schools do, such as drinking excessively, dating hella hoes, etc. I rock with these teams all of the time in the correct situations!

Mizzou+7 Illinois may take this team lightly becuase of the losses of Coffey, Maybin, and Chase Daniel, but that would be a mistake as the cupboard isn't empty. The Tigers are well coached and have stockpiled talent just for the time when all of those stars would depart. The Illini have underacheived for the most part during the Ron Zook era. Gimmie them points and the bad perception by the public!

Navy+22.5 Terrel Pryor is one of my favorite players in college football due to this consistent effort against USC in a game that they had no chance in last year. He put forth an extremely good performance despite his team being overwhelmed. Now if he can do that against USC he can do it agianst anybody. The problem here is that he s not a prototypical drop back passer, the kind which would hurt the Navy footbaqll team. He is for the most part a screen pass thrower and intermediate route thrower. He is not gonna gun it for 20 yards every pass play. So since he will eat up clock with his style of play that falls right into the wheel house of the Midshipmen who are clock eaters themselves if nothing else. The dynamic option attack is hard to stop if a team doesn't face it with regularity (ask the folks in ACC country about the GT Yellowjackets). When given more than 8 points, the Middies are 14-6 ats. Make em a dog of more than 20 and they are 5-1 ats. Gimmie them points

Nevada+14.5 Why Notre Dame is favored by this much over a superior team is basically from hype and not reality.Nevada's ofensive line is rated in the top quarter to go along with their defensive line. They had more rushing yards than Navy for crying out loud! An A grade rushing attack versus a C grade rushing defense (Notre Dame) then more than that, the Pack have a B rated rushing defense facing a D grade rushing offense. Weis will be in more turmoil after this game, and it's not even his fault. The Pack are just a better team right now


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Old 08-31-09, 01:51 PM   #2
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Good to see you are on Navy. I got a good chunk riding against my buckeyes.
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Old 08-31-09, 05:18 PM   #3
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CK, do you play all your games for the same amount or different units? If so, are you going to post the units? Thanks
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Old 08-31-09, 09:58 PM   #4
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I'll be joining you on Army and Navy myself most likely. I'm waiting to see if the line will get even better and I believe it will . . . .
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Old 08-31-09, 10:02 PM   #5
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Old 08-31-09, 11:09 PM   #6
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i started the thread a few days ago
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Old 08-31-09, 11:12 PM   #7
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(2x) over boise 63.5

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(1x) over tulsa 64

(2x) oklahoma -22

(1x) wisconsin -17
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Haha. All dogs. I love it.
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Old 09-01-09, 02:33 AM   #9
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GL ck...
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Old 09-01-09, 02:50 AM   #10
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BOL this season CK, I remember last year I make a lot of money by tailing all of your bowl picks.
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Old 09-01-09, 12:02 PM   #11
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Hey CK I love the Oregon and Navy picks. I'll be on those with ya. Good luck man.
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Old 09-01-09, 06:48 PM   #12
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CK, do you play all your games for the same amount or different units? If so, are you going to post the units? Thanks

Generally, I play them for different amounts as usual. For right now I am playing everything for the same amount because it's hard to guage what you're putting your money on without seeing how the teams are performing. As the season progresses I will start to put unit measures by my plays.
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Old 09-01-09, 07:07 PM   #13
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GL ck...

Thanks, pags11. Looking forward to working together this year and taking down the man! I love live dogs as you can tell by my selections! You're the man here it seems, so I am only hoping that I can hold my own here amid all of these great handicappers such as yourself and solidify my position as a member and front man of The Sharp Group. I came around last year when the football season was almost over, so not many know what I can do. Despite the tear that I went on in the bowl season, I'm loving that no one is paying attention to what we're doing here with college football. That's a wonderful thing for a select few. I totally understand the responsibility that I have to my following to produce the correct play. And it's tough at times catering to the masses. This is what endears you to me. The strength of character and resolve that it takes to put yourself out there, producing threads, taking the heat and also the accolades is not an easy thing. You can't have three bad weeks in a row, let alone three bad days. You have my utmost respect.

I am thankful for the opportunity to compare notes, etc and converse with you more and more as the year goes on.
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Old 09-01-09, 08:46 PM   #14
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Old 09-02-09, 01:35 AM   #15
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Sunday 9/6

Memphis+16.5

Colorado State+10.5


Monday 9/7

Florida State-6.5 HEAVY
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Old 09-02-09, 01:49 AM   #16
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Hey CK, two questions...

1) Do you play your plays early or you will watch the lines until game day?

2) Just out of curiosity, when are you and SM setting up the thread for NFL?

Thank you and have a good night.
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Old 09-02-09, 01:55 AM   #17
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That's it folks. That's a week's worth of picks homies. From now on I will make one singular NCAA football pick on Saturday and do more commentary during the week than anything else. I want to get back to being more of an editor and educator than anything else. I would like my page to become about how handicapping is done; more than just a bunch of random picks from the squad. It's time to change the tone of my thread back to what it is intended for, whether I actually make a pick that particular day or not. I am always available to help with research whether a person needs the correct site for analysis help or my slant on a particular game and so on. No more free stylin'. It's all about pay styles now.
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Hey CK, two questions...

1) Do you play your plays early or you will watch the lines until game day?

2) Just out of curiosity, when are you and SM setting up the thread for NFL?

Thank you and have a good night.
I will make my pick available by Friday night for Saturday's action. I'm turning this shit into talk radio again.

Sexymit and I are setting up a thread for the NFL after the last pre-season game. We will also offer one pick apiece for Sunday games and discuss our handicapping throughout the week on our thread. Just kind of bounce ideas off of each other and work with the Mafia crew!
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Old 09-02-09, 02:04 AM   #19
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Gotcha, thanks!
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Old 09-02-09, 03:21 AM   #20
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Follow us on Twitter if you are out and about, TheSharpGroup on tweetdeck. I usually have my picks on twitter a day ahead of the games
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Old 09-02-09, 11:12 AM   #21
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I got some bad information about the Army game, so I am dropping it from my play list. I am hearing some good things about Buffalo. Turner Gill has them on the right track. Some smart money was thrown down on Buffalo by a couple of guys that I know of. They indicate that UTEP may be a flase favorite. I'm gonna look a little more into this game and see what's what. In addition, my guy also has a clean angle on the Rice/UTEP matchup that I had no idea about. Info is key in college football betting.
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Old 09-02-09, 12:41 PM   #22
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Hey ck whats your take on C. Mich/Arizona and what do the numbers say? I see 5D has 71% on C.Mich and the line went to +13.5.
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Okay goodies are out here for the taking and I have a few plays for the 1st week in mind now that I have had time to look at lne movement. I have made a few changes from the original leans as the lines have made some things abundantly clear.

Friday 9/4/09

Oregon+5.5 I already made this play based upon the fact that Oregon is a BCS team and Boise State is NOT. The Broncos can move the ball against anybody for sure, but Oregon has great overall team speed and lots of unknowns who can run like the dickens.

Saturday 9/5/09

Toledo+11 The steam on this game is hard to ignore as the consensus shows that bettors are all over the Boilers despite their horrid defensive numbers. Toledo is no better, and this onje looks like a shootout waiting to happen.

Georgia+5.5 I jumped ship on Okie State on this game after I looked into their defensive numbers. Georgia plays real defense in a really tough conference. The Big12 always has problems with SEC teams and Georgia is a good one that is well coached. They lost quite a bit on the ofensive side of the ball with Stafford and Moreno gone out of the fold, but Richt never leaves the cupboards empty. Despite what looks like a shootout on paper, I think that this will be a tough grind it out type of game. If Zach Robinson has time to throw, the Cowboys win by a field goal and give me the cover. If e doesn't have time to throw, the Dogs will win outright.

Connecticut/Ohio under 46.5 This game was assigned too high of a total to begin with and now the linemaker is trying to shorten the opportunity for cash. No such luck. CK spotted it and is on it. The Huskies run the ball and stop the run too. I don't think that Ohio will score more than 10 points in this game. Because of their style, the Huskies will score 31 and the 41 combined points will get me under the total.

Army+5 Now I now that this play looks crazy. But I actually believe that the Cadets will be able to run the ball on Eastern Michigan and actually come out with the outright win. The Service Academy teams are some of my favorite teams to wager with because they don't participate in some of the vices that players from other well known schools do, such as drinking excessively, dating hella hoes, etc. I rock with these teams all of the time in the correct situations!

Mizzou+7 Illinois may take this team lightly becuase of the losses of Coffey, Maybin, and Chase Daniel, but that would be a mistake as the cupboard isn't empty. The Tigers are well coached and have stockpiled talent just for the time when all of those stars would depart. The Illini have underacheived for the most part during the Ron Zook era. Gimmie them points and the bad perception by the public!

Navy+22.5 Terrel Pryor is one of my favorite players in college football due to this consistent effort against USC in a game that they had no chance in last year. He put forth an extremely good performance despite his team being overwhelmed. Now if he can do that against USC he can do it agianst anybody. The problem here is that he s not a prototypical drop back passer, the kind which would hurt the Navy footbaqll team. He is for the most part a screen pass thrower and intermediate route thrower. He is not gonna gun it for 20 yards every pass play. So since he will eat up clock with his style of play that falls right into the wheel house of the Midshipmen who are clock eaters themselves if nothing else. The dynamic option attack is hard to stop if a team doesn't face it with regularity (ask the folks in ACC country about the GT Yellowjackets). When given more than 8 points, the Middies are 14-6 ats. Make em a dog of more than 20 and they are 5-1 ats. Gimmie them points

Nevada+14.5 Why Notre Dame is favored by this much over a superior team is basically from hype and not reality.Nevada's ofensive line is rated in the top quarter to go along with their defensive line. They had more rushing yards than Navy for crying out loud! An A grade rushing attack versus a C grade rushing defense (Notre Dame) then more than that, the Pack have a B rated rushing defense facing a D grade rushing offense. Weis will be in more turmoil after this game, and it's not even his fault. The Pack are just a better team right now


Hey buddy, how are ya? I really love this play, in fact Mizzou is 4-0 against Illinois since 2002, and has beat them by at least 6 points. I like them just to win straight up, and at +230 I really feel it's the play of the week. Good job buddy, lets kill the books this season
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Old 09-02-09, 02:34 PM   #24
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Hey CK, great to hear that you're gonna be doing analysis and handicapper education. I love it! I'm all about learning how to be self-sufficient instead of just sapping off your picks (though I must say, the WNBA has been good to us all, so thank you!)

So, in the name of education, what sites would you recommend getting started on for some info? Last season I pretty much stuck to Covers and (although not a betting website), Yahoo Rivals. What else is out there for the newbie college football capper like myself?
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Old 09-02-09, 07:11 PM   #25
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CK, good luck this season with NCAA Football. May the season be very prosperous to you! Cash those tickets!!!!!!
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Good Luck I will tell you as of now that Illinois WILL win by 10 points and thats all Im saying.............again Good Luck!
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Sunday 9/6

Memphis+16.5

Colorado State+10.5


Monday 9/7

Florida State-6.5 HEAVY

i think those are good im ridin em with ya!
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Old 09-03-09, 03:32 AM   #28
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Alert! If anyone didn't get the number that I got for the Oregon Ducks, I would not recommend making this play still with a spread of 3. If you have bet it at that bad number I suggest betting out of that game by taking Boise to cover the money. The 3 is not as good as the 5 or 5.5 in my opinion. But if you are strong in your resolve to take the Duckies in spite of that number, good luck to you! It is not wise to play heavy against the Smurfs at home to begin with, which is exactly why I listed it as an ordinary pick.


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That's it folks. That's a week's worth of picks homies. From now on I will make one singular NCAA football pick on Saturday and do more commentary during the week than anything else. I want to get back to being more of an editor and educator than anything else. I would like my page to become about how handicapping is done; more than just a bunch of random picks from the squad. It's time to change the tone of my thread back to what it is intended for, whether I actually make a pick that particular day or not. I am always available to help with research whether a person needs the correct site for analysis help or my slant on a particular game and so on. No more free stylin'. It's all about pay styles now.
So from now on, only payed picks...and a freebie once in a while! Fair enough.

And will it be the same for NBA? Just curious.....
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Old 09-03-09, 10:10 AM   #30
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CK am i seeing things right only 2 on saturday
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Old 09-03-09, 01:33 PM   #31
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Hello Mr. President? Over here Mr. President?

CK......can you please impart some knowledge on your brother regarding line movement in college football. I know you always say it's about the "why" in movement. Using the following examples, can you tell me the significance of this line movement and what the correct play would be?

These seem like RLM
48% on N. Carolina St. Line went from -3.5 to -5.
41% on N. Texas St. Line went from +17 to +16
26% on Utah St. Line went from +21 to +20.5

These seem like the books trying to get people off of them.
82% on Troy St. Line went from -6.5 to -7
61% on Oregon. Line went from +5.5 to +3.5

Your feedback please Mr. President?
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Old 09-03-09, 02:44 PM   #32
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n e one for nc state n oregon tonight??
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Old 09-03-09, 04:31 PM   #33
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im leaning NC St and Oregon jimmy.
seem like solid plays with spurrier, and with ORE they have one of the best qb's and rb's in the nation
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and the revenge factor from that late hit last year.
anyone remember that??
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Old 09-03-09, 06:07 PM   #35
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Sounds good lets cash!!!
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