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    Default SJSU-SC total play

    Talked to my boy who knows both programs very well, especially SJSU. He said SJSU has no defense (in the secondary) at all this year and SC should hang 40+ easily. SC's line and run game will even defeat SJSU's strength on D in the front. The only question is whether SJSU will score, and he believes they will. SC might get 50 themselves, but who wants to lay 35 points? Not me.

    He advised SJSU +35 is probably good, but over 50 should hit rather easily. Don't be scared of SC's qb situation, they are all studs and will do fine against this porous defensive backfield.

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    SJSU is a lean for me but I would rather play the under more than anything if it set at 50. I have to take a look at the total. USC usually don't run up scores basically because they run a pro set offense and it's not designed for that. Now If they were playing a Oklahoma, Texas, or Florida, teams that run the spread I would be leaning the favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    SJSU is a lean for me but I would rather play the under more than anything if it set at 50. I have to take a look at the total. USC usually don't run up scores basically because they run a pro set offense and it's not designed for that. Now If they were playing a Oklahoma, Texas, or Florida, teams that run the spread I would be leaning the favorite.
    wat, do you remember the arkansas sc opener a few years ago? wasn't it like 70-3 or something? and the hawaii game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats13 View Post
    wat, do you remember the arkansas sc opener a few years ago? wasn't it like 70-3 or something? and the hawaii game?

    That team was way more talented than this years team. Look at last year in the Rose Bowl. Pete Carrol really don't run the score up on teams. He might have done it one or two times, but he often doesn't do it.

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    +35 to me is the better play and maybe the under

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
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    That team was way more talented than this years team. Look at last year in the Rose Bowl. Pete Carrol really don't run the score up on teams. He might have done it one or two times, but he often doesn't do it.
    lol at comparing rose bowl to san jose state that has almost all underclassman backfield

    child please
    Last edited by stats13; 08-20-09 at 12:37 PM.

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    ZBOIZ, what evidence do you have besides the anecdotal for your claim? look at last years results:

    2008 Schedule
    CFN Prediction: 10-2
    2008 Record: 12-1

    8/30 at Virginia W 52-7
    9/6 OPEN DATE
    9/13 Ohio State W 35-7
    9/20 OPEN DATE
    9/25 at Oregon St L 27-21
    10/4 Oregon W 44-10
    10/11 Arizona State W 28-0
    10/18 at Washington St W 69-0
    10/25 at Arizona W 17-10
    11/1 Washington W 56-0
    11/8 California W 17-3
    11/15 at Stanford W 45-23
    11/22 OPEN DATE
    11/29 Notre Dame W 38-3
    12/6 at UCLA W 28-7
    Rose Bowl
    1/1 Penn State W 38-24

    Let's go game by game. Virginia 52-7 I'd say the score was "run up"... on a decent ACC defense.

    Dropping 35 on The Ohio State is impressive, no?

    We all know what happened in the OSU game...

    44 on Oregon is decent, isn't it? 34 pt margin of victory over a top 15 team.

    ASU 28-0, could have been worse, granted. Thats 1 for you.

    Wash St 69-0... ummm if this isn't running up the score, what is?

    Arizona 17-10, the cats were tough on D and in Tucson, no gimme here

    Washington 56-0, another run up the score game over 50

    Cal 17-3, a ho-hum effort by the trojans offensively, against a decent team

    stanford 45-23, coulda been more but 40+ again

    ND 38-3, I'll give this toward your argument again, for sake of not being biased

    UCLA 28-7, in a rivalry game against a defensive team, not bad, not great. another for you

    Penn st 38-24, hell, Penn St was top 10 at least, not bad to drop 38 on them.

    So I don't think you really have much to back your argument... and I smell a bit of SC haterade on your part

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    My point exactly it's only 3 games out of all of them that would have covered a 35 point spread. And that was with a solid QB, and this year as of now they are not stable at the QB poisition.

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    I also don't hate USC I just tell the truth. I think USC will have a good year. But will they have a 1 loss year or a 2 loss year. I think this year they loose 3. Thats just my opinion.

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    when did i say sc -35 is a good play? I said sjsu +35 was probably good...

    and the OVER 50!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats13 View Post
    when did i say sc -35 is a good play? I said sjsu +35 was probably good...

    and the OVER 50!

    I still like the Under. No one wants to believe me when I say USC is not stable at the QB position. You cant expect there unstable QB play to all of sudden have a hall of fame performance week 1. Hell Pete Carrol does'nt even know who his starter is.

    Those guys at USC is no Palmer, Booty, Lienart, or Sanchez. If so he would have a definite starter by now, and he would'nt of flipped a gasket when Sanchez DECLARED FOR THE DRAFT.

    Carrol got mad because he knew his backups was not ready.

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    down to 48.5, 48 at some places

    still love over

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    Being a fan of USC football, a true freshman QB is a worry. I wish Sanchez were back for the title run.

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    9/25 at Oregon St L 27-21
    That fluke loss cost them a title. USC and Florida is what we all wanted to see.

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    i'm not worried... hell he beat out corp and mustain!

    and dude, mater dei is the real deal in terms of hs ball. i know that might sound stupid to some, or most, but i have faith in anyone who qb'd that program

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    i hope the total keeps dropping though. i really think SC might hang 50 on em alone, sjsu's dbs are underclassmen too, and they AREN'T good!

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    What title run? The one in 2010, because next year, all the pretenders in the SEC and Big 12 will not have a chance against USC. The SEC is afraid of them anyways, but don't worry Florida, you will not have to face USC this year. The defense is new, and the away schedule is tougher than any 5 SEC teams combined play. So USC is looking at possibly 3-4 losses, no matter who the QB is. Next year, with a much softer schedule, a Heisman Trophy Candidate backfor his 2nd year, and eveyone else except Mays back, USC will be the pre-season favorite to win it all. But that is next year. This year, Carroll get's the kids some experience.

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    BigDaddyQH,

    No one in the SEC is scared of USC!!

    USC will not be the same the same USC people is use to seeing. A true freshman will not lead this team underfeated or 1 loss. They will loose 2 to 3 games this year.

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    zboiz, you don't have any clue what you are talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats13 View Post
    zboiz, you don't have any clue what you are talking about

    stats don't disrespect my intelligence on the game of college football. This is one sport I can talk inside and out about. And anybody with College football knowledge can tell you that it's rare that a freshman QB can come in and run a top tier program like USC. It's really rare, and USC will take some lumps for doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats13 View Post
    zboiz, you don't have any clue what you are talking about

    Also why would a SEC program be scored to play USC ?? If anything us SEC people feel as if USC is scared to play the big dogs of the SEC. Like I said thats how we feel. If anything USC should want us more than we want them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    That fluke loss cost them a title. USC and Florida is what we all wanted to see.
    How could an ass whipping be considered a fluke loss? OrSU was up 21-0 at half, totally dominated the offense and defensive lines and had a freshman RB "jizz" all over the trojans hats for over 186 yards? If it wasn't for a miracle 4th down conversion and a last minute TD plus missed FG's for OrSU, the game wasn't even close.

    Fluke

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    That fluke loss cost them a title. USC and Florida is what we all wanted to see.
    Texas > USC. They were what we wanted to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats13 View Post
    I was thinking of the spread when i saw this.. but 35 still might not be enough.

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    I'm already locked in on the over 48.5 now... love it still

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Also why would a SEC program be scored to play USC ?? If anything us SEC people feel as if USC is scared to play the big dogs of the SEC. Like I said thats how we feel. If anything USC should want us more than we want them.

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    FLORIDA 2 BCS NATIONAL TITLES

    USC 1 BCS NATIONAL TITLE
    The factoif the matter is that USC has Two National Titles. LSU's National title in 2003 was bogus and you know it., USC would have kicked the caca out of LSU, just like they do to every SEC team that they play. NO SEC team will ever schedule USC again, because they are tired of getting it kicked out of them on a National Basis. Name the last team from the SEC that defeated USC? SEC people simply do not want to admit the fact that USC has been superior to anything that they have put on the field for years now. SEC people know that they are staring certain defeat in the face of the schedule USC, so they run and hide like the cowards they are when USC comes calling.

    Let's face it. The SEC has a lot of gutless teams. Florida is the biggest. They refuse to play non-con games out of state. Nothing but B.S. Now other SEC teams are at least trying to schedule games with the Pac 10. LSU gets to play Washington again, and then a home and home with Arizona State in 2015-16. Both Tennessee and Georgia will find out what embarrasement is when they lose to Oregon in the coming years. Florida will not do that. No SEC team will ever schedule USC again because they do not want to lose two games in two years to them, which is exactly what would happen. If you know so much about football (and I will be questioning that all season) you know that what I have said is the truth. The SEC is scared crapless of USC. That is why all of the SEC teams run and hide when USC talks to them about a home and home. Every single one of them.

    Now as far as USC this year is concerned, if you read my post (and aparently you are such a homer that reading is not part of the program) you would see that I have stated that 3-4 losses is probable for them this season. It is not the QB so much as it is the defense. Guys who make a big deal out of the USC QB just show their total ignorance about the program. USC can run you to death, if they choose to. It is the untested defense that will decide the away games that are so tough. If the defense really comes together, then USC will dominate again. But that is going to take time. Next year, NO ONE will be able to touch USC. This year, the groundwork has to be laid. That comes with a price. USC's long streak of BCS games may come to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    I still like the Under. No one wants to believe me when I say USC is not stable at the QB position. You cant expect there unstable QB play to all of sudden have a hall of fame performance week 1. Hell Pete Carrol does'nt even know who his starter is.

    Those guys at USC is no Palmer, Booty, Lienart, or Sanchez. If so he would have a definite starter by now, and he would'nt of flipped a gasket when Sanchez DECLARED FOR THE DRAFT.

    Carrol got mad because he knew his backups was not ready.
    i totally agree with the under.this is the first time i can remember that they dont have a qb that knows the offense.lot of people say its usc and they will get it together,but im not convinced,i think usc might even have a 4 loss seaon
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    the pretenders in the sec you say,.... the sec does not shy away from anyone,..bring on ,USC,OKLA,TEXAS,ETC,..we don't back down

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The factoif the matter is that USC has Two National Titles. LSU's National title in 2003 was bogus and you know it., USC would have kicked the caca out of LSU, just like they do to every SEC team that they play. NO SEC team will ever schedule USC again, because they are tired of getting it kicked out of them on a National Basis. Name the last team from the SEC that defeated USC? SEC people simply do not want to admit the fact that USC has been superior to anything that they have put on the field for years now. SEC people know that they are staring certain defeat in the face of the schedule USC, so they run and hide like the cowards they are when USC comes calling.

    Let's face it. The SEC has a lot of gutless teams. Florida is the biggest. They refuse to play non-con games out of state. Nothing but B.S. Now other SEC teams are at least trying to schedule games with the Pac 10. LSU gets to play Washington again, and then a home and home with Arizona State in 2015-16. Both Tennessee and Georgia will find out what embarrasement is when they lose to Oregon in the coming years. Florida will not do that. No SEC team will ever schedule USC again because they do not want to lose two games in two years to them, which is exactly what would happen. If you know so much about football (and I will be questioning that all season) you know that what I have said is the truth. The SEC is scared crapless of USC. That is why all of the SEC teams run and hide when USC talks to them about a home and home. Every single one of them.

    Now as far as USC this year is concerned, if you read my post (and aparently you are such a homer that reading is not part of the program) you would see that I have stated that 3-4 losses is probable for them this season. It is not the QB so much as it is the defense. Guys who make a big deal out of the USC QB just show their total ignorance about the program. USC can run you to death, if they choose to. It is the untested defense that will decide the away games that are so tough. If the defense really comes together, then USC will dominate again. But that is going to take time. Next year, NO ONE will be able to touch USC. This year, the groundwork has to be laid. That comes with a price. USC's long streak of BCS games may come to an end.

    BigDaddy dont be stupid for life


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    I love USC at -35. USC will completely dominate at the line of scrimmage on both sides. Barkley will have all day to throw to a completely outmatched secondary, to a bunch of stud wideouts. Carroll will also let his frosh QB run this score up to gain some confidence. I don't see USC scoring any less than 7 TD's in this game. Meaning I like the overs as well.

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    Let's stay with the now Bigdaddy, cause the past is all SEC, the present is all SEC and as far as the future, well... we can cross that path when it comes, but for now, it's all SEC.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    What title run? The one in 2010, because next year, all the pretenders in the SEC and Big 12 will not have a chance against USC. The SEC is afraid of them anyways, but don't worry Florida, you will not have to face USC this year. The defense is new, and the away schedule is tougher than any 5 SEC teams combined play. So USC is looking at possibly 3-4 losses, no matter who the QB is. Next year, with a much softer schedule, a Heisman Trophy Candidate backfor his 2nd year, and eveyone else except Mays back, USC will be the pre-season favorite to win it all. But that is next year. This year, Carroll get's the kids some experience.

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