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    Default Let's break down the BCS National Championship

    Two very explosive teams. Who do you like?

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    I've fondly thought that if you can answer one question in a particular game, you can win the side. Here's the question I'll pose:


    Can Oklahoma run the ball effectively on Florida's front 7? If you answer this question correctly, you'll win your bet.

    Here's my answer: I thought Alabama ran the ball effectively against Florida. I think there was good play calling mixed in there as well. Overall, though, the stats say Bama ran the ball 33 times for 136 yards. Not bad at all. If Oklahoma can sustain that kind of average against Florida as well, then Oklahoma will win the game. My gut says that they will run the ball as effectively as Alabama did. Therefore, my conclusion is: Oklahoma on the moneyline.



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    I like the team that plays better defense and thats Florida

    Defense wins championships

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    I like the team that plays better defense and thats Florida

    Defense wins championships
    Hard to argue that rebuttal. No question Florida has the better defense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EBone View Post
    Hard to argue that rebuttal. No question Florida has the better defense.


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    Listen to me. Florida has the better defense.

    Oklahoma will not win this game with the type of defense they play! They are not aggresive enough. Look how Florida fought against that stingy defense of Alabama. Only look at defense for this game. Defense wins championships.

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    I wasn't trying to rile you up, ZBOIS. I seriously can't argue with the fact that Florida has the better defense. Point taken. Sorry if my post above was read differently than my intention.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EBone View Post
    I've fondly thought that if you can answer one question in a particular game, you can win the side. Here's the question I'll pose:


    Can Oklahoma run the ball effectively on Florida's front 7? If you answer this question correctly, you'll win your bet.

    Here's my answer: I thought Alabama ran the ball effectively against Florida. I think there was good play calling mixed in there as well. Overall, though, the stats say Bama ran the ball 33 times for 136 yards. Not bad at all. If Oklahoma can sustain that kind of average against Florida as well, then Oklahoma will win the game. My gut says that they will run the ball as effectively as Alabama did. Therefore, my conclusion is: Oklahoma on the moneyline.



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    Alabama has 2 first round draft picks on the offensive line, OK does not. I believe AL has the best run game in the country. FL survived it. Oklahoma passes to set up the run out of the spread. Ok is not as physical up front. They just do a good job of spreading you out with the passing game to take guys out of the box. They then run where they can get a hat on a hat. OK has a lot of rushing yards after they get a lead. FL has faced a much better run game. Texas has the only defensive line worth a crap besides OK in the Big 12. We saw how that turned out.
    Last edited by The Seer; 12-09-08 at 10:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBone View Post
    I wasn't trying to rile you up, ZBOIS. I seriously can't argue with the fact that Florida has the better defense. Point taken. Sorry if my post above was read differently than my intention.


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    No it was'nt like that. I just want you to know that I dont believe Oklahoma will have enough defense to win a Championship. Oklahoma St. hung a alot of points on them. People may say well the BIG 12 have great QB'S, but that want win you a championship. If Oklahoma St. can hang over 40 on you than Florida will hang 50! Now you add Florida defense who have 4.2 and 4.3 speed in the secondary, it will be hell for Oklahoma.

    Also Stoops, he lost to West Virgina last year in the BCS, USC in the BCS, LSU in the BCS, and Boise St in the BCS. The guy don't have a good resume in the big games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Listen to me. Florida has the better defense.

    Oklahoma will not win this game with the type of defense they play! They are not aggresive enough. Look how Florida fought against that stingy defense of Alabama. Only look at defense for this game. Defense wins championships.
    How many Oklahoma games have you watched? My guess is maybe two. If Oklahoma's defense is anything, it's overly aggressive. They are #1 in the nation in turnover margin and #3 in the nation in sacks.

    I agree that Florida has a better D as Brandon Spikes is one bad dude and Oklahoma is starting their 3rd MLB as Ryan Reynolds and Austin Box are out with injuries. However, Florida has not faced an Offense anywhere near the level of Oklahoma.

    Oklahoma has a better O-Line, RB's, WR's as a whole (Harvin is the best on either team) and QB I would call a push or slight edge to Bradford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    How many Oklahoma games have you watched? My guess is maybe two. If Oklahoma's defense is anything, it's overly aggressive. They are #1 in the nation in turnover margin and #3 in the nation in sacks.

    I agree that Florida has a better D as Brandon Spikes is one bad dude and Oklahoma is starting their 3rd MLB as Ryan Reynolds and Austin Box are out with injuries. However, Florida has not faced an Offense anywhere near the level of Oklahoma.

    Oklahoma has a better O-Line, RB's, WR's as a whole (Harvin is the best on either team) and QB I would call a push or slight edge to Bradford.

    I actually watched almost every Oklahoma game. And just about all Florida games. And from what I see I see Florida winning this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    No it was'nt like that. I just want you to know that I dont believe Oklahoma will have enough defense to win a Championship. Oklahoma St. hung a alot of points on them. People may say well the BIG 12 have great QB'S, but that want win you a championship. If Oklahoma St. can hang over 40 on you than Florida will hang 50! Now you add Florida defense who have 4.2 and 4.3 speed in the secondary, it will be hell for Oklahoma.

    Also Stoops, he lost to West Virgina last year in the BCS, USC in the BCS, LSU in the BCS, and Boise St in the BCS. The guy don't have a good resume in the big games.
    Both teams have players that run in 4.2 - 4.3 range on D. As far as Stoops record in BCS games I can't argue. The '03 game vs LSU was a good hard fought battle they came up on the wrong side of. In '04 USC kicked all of Sooner Nation square in the nuts. I still hate them for it. The '06 Fiesta against Boise St was an all-time classic that required three crazy trick plays that all happened to work. Last yeas Fiesta vs W.Virginia was disappointing but Oklahoma did have 4 premier players out that game with injuries. How would LSU have held up against Ohio St. without their #1 WR, #1 DT, #1 RB, and #1 DB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    Both teams have players that run in 4.2 - 4.3 range on D. As far as Stoops record in BCS games I can't argue. The '03 game vs LSU was a good hard fought battle they came up on the wrong side of. In '04 USC kicked all of Sooner Nation square in the nuts. I still hate them for it. The '06 Fiesta against Boise St was an all-time classic that required three crazy trick plays that all happened to work. Last yeas Fiesta vs W.Virginia was disappointing but Oklahoma did have 4 premier players out that game with injuries. How would LSU have held up against Ohio St. without their #1 WR, #1 DT, #1 RB, and #1 DB?
    We still would have kicked there ass!!

    Last year we were going 5 deep at running back. And our #1 reciever was hurt basically the whole year anyway, and our #1 DB was out Steltz with a arm injury, and Dorsey our #1 DT was playing. I think the only thing that woul dof hurted us was the DT

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    I actually watched almost every Oklahoma game. And just about all Florida games. And from what I see I see Florida winning this game.
    I have a hard time believing you've watched ever Oklahoma, Florida, and LSU game. I believe you watched all the highlights on sportscenter but not all 4 quarters of each teams games.

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    Thats funny! All I do is watch football. Trust me.

    As a matter fact I know yall DT real good as an athlete Frank Alexander the Freshman.

    I use to go watch him play I was mad he did'nt go to LSU. His best friend is LSU safety Chad Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    I have a hard time believing you've watched ever Oklahoma, Florida, and LSU game. I believe you watched all the highlights on sportscenter but not all 4 quarters of each teams games.
    I even know the players Stoops is trying to recruit here in louisiana. trust me i know more than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Thats funny! All I do is watch football. Trust me.

    As a matter fact I know yall DT real good as an athlete Frank Alexander the Freshman.

    I use to go watch him play I was mad he did'nt go to LSU. His best friend is LSU safety Chad Jones
    Alexander is a DE. Our stud DT is Gerald McCoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    Alexander is a DE. Our stud DT is Gerald McCoy.
    Alexander was a st8 monster in highschool

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    Alexander and Joe Mcknight were 2 athletes in our backyard that we let go. i was pissed

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    Stoops recruits heavily in Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, and Nevada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    What does st8 mean?
    straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerGreg View Post
    I thought it was state. Shouldn't straight be str8?
    I meant to put the r in there

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    How is Oklahoma 2009 recruting class looking

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