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    dj_destroyer
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    Counting cards in LIVE online casinos???

    No one ever talks about it... Why not?

    My testing has gone over smoothly:

    Sep 29 7:54pm-8:41pm (+205) 47m
    Sep 30 7:52pm-8:39pm (-5) 47m
    Oct 1 1:33pm-2:19pm (+47) 46m
    Oct 2 6:57pm-8:19pm (-115) 1h22m
    Oct 3 10:45am-11:24am (+234) 39m
    Oct 3 3:43pm-3:48pm (+37) 5m
    Oct 3 11:17pm-11:22pm (+19) 5m
    Oct 4 10:32am-11:02am (+25) 30m
    Oct 4 6:56pm-7:11pm (+10) 15m
    Oct 5 11:19am-11:35am (+25) 16m
    Oct 5 8:19pm-8:44pm (+40) 25m
    Oct 5 10:54pm-11:25pm (+26) 31m
    Oct 7 2:50pm-2:55pm (+7) 5m
    Oct 8 1:03pm-1:57pm (+87) 54m
    Oct 9 3:37pm-5:38pm (+67) 2h01m
    Oct 9 9:35pm-11:56pm (+309) 2h21m
    Oct 10 11:36am-12:06pm (+68) 30m
    Oct 11 11:23pm-12:29am (+659) 1h06m
    Oct 13 6:24pm-7:54pm (+650) 1h30m
    Oct 14 11:53am-1:25pm (+100) 1h32m
    Oct 14 3:19pm-4:07pm (+490) 48m
    Oct 14 10:41pm-11:16pm (+258) 35m
    Oct 15 1:03pm-2:28pm (-255) 1h25m
    Oct 16 12:55pm-1:35pm (+515) 40m
    Oct 17 12:18pm-1:02pm (+105) 44m
    Oct 17 2:50pm-7:07pm (+168) 4h17m
    Oct 18 10:39am-11:33am (+210) 54m
    Oct 19 11:28am-12:04pm (+700) 36m
    Oct 20 9:01pm-10:13pm (+340) 1h12m
    Oct 21 1:19pm-2:53pm (+313) 1h34m
    Oct 21 5:04pm-6:39pm (+477) 1h35m
    Oct 22 4:01pm-4:16pm (+250) 15m
    Oct 24 12:06pm-12:28pm (+205) 22m
    Oct 24 5:55pm-10:00pm (+70) 4h05m
    Oct 25 12:50pm-4:37pm (+348) 3h47m


    Clocked in 39.26h grossing $6659 for $166/h

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    thats crazy! i would like to tail lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeraddict2012 View Post
    thats crazy! i would like to tail lol!
    Funny thing is, the site where I'm playing currently allows other bettors to "bet behind" any seat... so you really could just tail me LOL

    But you can do it yourself, counting cards is incredibly easy.

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    Will I get limited soon?

    Never really heard of limits in the casino but I'm sure it happens.

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    I tested this at SBR casino. It worked great the first day, then in one session I lost over 90 pts (I was betting a pt a hand, doing a small martingale).

    Not doubting that it does work, but variance is a biatch.

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    I would be more worried this violates TOS in some manner and they take all your winnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Will I get limited soon?

    Never really heard of limits in the casino but I'm sure it happens.
    You probably should have stayed quiet and cash out most of it.

    Why draw attention?

    Now if they don't pay you, you can't use sbr to help you.

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    isn't it a new deck every hand?

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    if you keep winning at this pace, they will eventually block you from their blackjack. its only a matter of time unless you lose it all back.

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    There is counter measures to prevent people from counting @ the live casino. Like burning a card after every hand for e.g

    another nonsense thread. WTG

    If you gonna count go buy million dollar blackjack. read it reread it.

    Learn how to keep running count. Count down 1 deck in less then 30 seconds. Move on to true count. Practice 200 more hours out of casino. You might have an edge then. I say you might because chances are you will mess up sometimes in your count which will kill any edge you get.
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    If this is at 5 Dimes or Sportbet you need to start cashing out. See my post on the thread further down about the best online live casinos. DO NOT count any cards. Do not change your bets during a shoe, only at shuffles or new sessions. Follow its advice except if the dealer shows a ten or ace take the early payout if it says to stand or double, except BJ of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    There is counter measures to prevent people from counting @ the live casino. Like burning a card after every hand for e.g

    another nonsense thread. WTG

    If you gonna count go buy million dollar blackjack. read it reread it.

    Learn how to keep running count. Count down 1 deck in less then 30 seconds. Move on to true count. Practice 200 more hours out of casino. You might have an edge then. I say you might because chances are you will mess up sometimes in your count which will kill any edge you get.
    The casino I play at does NOT burn cards. Penetration is about 75%. No continuous shuffling machine. 8 deck shoes that you see shuffled right in front of you.

    Already use true count obviously. Counting is super easy in an online casino because I just run a program that does all the hard work.

    I withdrew $5000 of it already via wire transfer. Also, I vary my bets almost every few hands.

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    How many decks do they use and how deep is the penetration? Those two factors are crucial when determing whether a game can be beaten.

    I was not aware this was an opportunity. I cannot imagine they would allow you to plow them regularly. Casinos will sure put the rough touch down when they discover you are raping them with counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatWad View Post
    How many decks do they use and how deep is the penetration? Those two factors are crucial when determing whether a game can be beaten.

    I was not aware this was an opportunity. I cannot imagine they would allow you to plow them regularly. Casinos will sure put the rough touch down when they discover you are raping them with counting.
    Check the post above. 7 or 8 deck shoes. About 75% penetration.

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    sharp post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    sharp post
    Sammy, tell me why they're letting me withdraw $5000 and letting me continue to play?

    Because they think it's luck. I'm going to show them.

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    Been using the 18 illustrious deviations to cash in my EV.

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    dj_

    this post is 'bad' on your part , IMO

    not as bad as Fishhead's post from 8yrs ago

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    Keep plowing them. Having made good money counting cards, I know the most important thing is finding an exploitable game that will allow you to play.

    Are you playing at 5dimes? I never look at the games as I assume they are safe guarded against proficient counters. Seems like it would be easy for them to recognize how widely you are spreading your bets and how this tends to happens as deck penetration increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post

    I would be more worried this violates TOS in some manner and they take all your winnings.

    "Professional card counters are prohibited. If you are found to be a professional card counter, your account is subject to immediate closure." 5Dimes

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    Try getting your winnings from Tony on a close acct , good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    dj_

    this post is 'bad' on your part , IMO

    not as bad as Fishhead's post from 8yrs ago
    Not sure what post you're referencing.

    And I don't know what you mean... there are whole FORUMS dedicated to card counting. It's not illegal or even incriminating to talk about it.

    I'll even give up the program I use ---> http://www.blackjackcardcounter.net/download/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Try getting your winnings from Tony on a close acct , good luck
    Not 5Dimes... Also already withdrew 5k via wire transfer.

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    The rule you quote is under the rules for the regular live BJ game, not the early payout version which doesn't require any card counting.

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    Its not Rigged.

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    sportsbook.com got taken for a decent amount from a counter and now they have rules on their website allowing them to close the accounts of suspected counters.

    So figure out some good cover play to look like a degen or whatever site you're on will cut you off

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    Oct 26 11:14am-1:42pm (+95) 2h28m

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    using software?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    using software?
    Post 26. Very basic counter.

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    Just lost 2800 in a 12 hour session... WAS NOT counting like a fricken idiot.

    I must be the biggest bozo in the league.

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    I doubt it works... the casino might be live, but still operates on software. I think you could use some hack tools or bots to do the counting, but this will get you banned for sure.

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