Brock Lesnar vs. Mark Coleman

The Seer · 03-03-2008, 09:46 AM

“I’m gonna dedicate my life to this,” said Coleman on the UFC 82 pay-per-view broadcast. “The fans want to see me, I’m gonna pay my dues, and I’m gonna do the best I can. He (Lesnar) is a beast, he’s an animal, but don’t bet the house against me. I’m gonna bring something for Brock Lesnar and I’m gonna beat his butt.”

I think this is a bad match up for the 43 year old Coleman. Same style against a younger, stronger guy. However, Coleman has fought the best,legends in the sport. he's seen everything and much better fighters. It'll be interesting. We'll see in 5 months. Let's get the discussion started.

ShamsWoof10 · 03-03-2008, 10:55 AM

Where's my boy Mark Kerr...? I thought he was making a comeback..?

The Seer · 03-03-2008, 11:28 AM

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Where's my boy Mark Kerr...? I thought he was making a comeback..?

He used to be my favorite but pure ground and pounders have benn getting their ass handed to them in the years of late. He was the biggest disappointment. Kerr was the most athletic and strongest, not to mention ruthless, fighter I've ever seen. Too bad he couldn't get his head on straight. That bitch gf he had was a huge distraction. He woulda killed Coleman and Kerr in his prime easily.

ShamsWoof10 · 03-03-2008, 12:16 PM

WOW that really surprises me that a girl distracted Mark... Granted I'm sure many things changed from the time you are in school but Mark had many girlfriends at once... In the 90's he had a girlfriend in every major city since he did a lot of traveling... I thought it was his mom's death that might have screwed his head up but a girlfriend can do it too I guess... I can't remember exactly when his mom died but I want to say it was 96' or was it 99'..? When did his downfall start..? I never followed his UFC carrer but I still like the guy.. He was an amazing athlete and he was nice to the young kicker

I hope he rebounds but he's probably too old now to compete with some of these guys...

I am sticking with the Mark's here and going with Coleman...

The Seer · 03-03-2008, 02:33 PM

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WOW that really surprises me that a girl distracted Mark... Granted I'm sure many things changed from the time you are in school but Mark had many girlfriends at once... In the 90's he had a girlfriend in every major city since he did a lot of traveling... I thought it was his mom's death that might have screwed his head up but a girlfriend can do it too I guess... I can't remember exactly when his mom died but I want to say it was 96' or was it 99'..? When did his downfall start..? I never followed his UFC carrer but I still like the guy.. He was an amazing athlete and he was nice to the young kicker

I hope he rebounds but he's probably too old now to compete with some of these guys...

I am sticking with the Mark's here and going with Coleman...

Sham's there is an excellent documentary on Kerr. It chronicles his downfall with his gf (I think they got married and live in LV) and his addiction to painkillers. It's called The Smashing MAchine and it's been out a few years. It has some great footage and shows just how powerful he was.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320512/

http://www.amazon.com/Smashing-Machi.../dp/B0000C52JT

UncleChris · 03-06-2008, 05:45 PM

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Sham's there is an excellent documentary on Kerr. It chronicles his downfall with his gf (I think they got married and live in LV) and his addiction to painkillers.

painkiller and a LOT of roids.

ShamsWoof10 · 03-06-2008, 06:14 PM

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Sham's there is an excellent documentary on Kerr. It chronicles his downfall with his gf (I think they got married and live in LV) and his addiction to painkillers. It's called The Smashing MAchine and it's been out a few years. It has some great footage and shows just how powerful he was.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320512/

http://www.amazon.com/Smashing-Machi.../dp/B0000C52JT

This looks really interesting... Thanks Seer I missed this post... I will check this out and I'm sure "Coach" will be interested too... I just got off the phone with him and he said he watched it once but wanted a copy.. He liked Mark... He said it's depressing watching Mark go down but it was a good documentary... I guess Mark's brother also got in trouble for tax reasons... He was our team doctor... I hear all is well now ...hope so.. he was a good guy.. I didn't know this but they have "Mary Kerr" day at the school once a year and that is cool because she was good people...

Thanks again

slacker00 · 03-06-2008, 10:43 PM

Coleman v. Lesnar is a fantastic matchup. I can't believe I didn't think of it. The first great wrestler to become the first UFC heavyweight champ against the latest wrestler to enter the UFC. Lesnar has 50 lbs on Coleman, plus youth which I think is a decisive edge. What are the odds? 2 to 1 for Lesnar? 3 to 2 maybe?

Thor4140 · 03-07-2008, 02:06 PM

Coleman should be out of breath in the first minute.

UncleChris · 03-07-2008, 05:29 PM

10 years ago Coleman would have done the same with Lesnar like Mir. This fight is just set up to give Lesnar some reputation but to be honest Lesnars vicotry will be worth a pile of shit. Coleman is doing this for the money and nothing else. Already rigged a fight für $50k.

thegreatdiatchi · 03-08-2008, 02:42 PM

Yea I think Coleman is in trouble here and while Lesnar is a beast I think he has a long way to go before you can call him a top fighter.

slacker00 · 03-09-2008, 10:42 AM

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Yea I think Coleman is in trouble here and while Lesnar is a beast I think he has a long way to go before you can call him a top fighter.

Coleman is by no means in trouble. He is certainly has some obstacles to overcome as far as age and size. But Coleman certainly has experience and technique. This should be a good fight and Coleman absolutely has a good chance to win.

This should be a good fight. It should be interesting for MMA fans because it is once again a test of technique against strength. Lesnar absolutely is the stronger man, but as we saw in the Mir fight and every other fight in MMA history, size is only significant when skills are relatively equal. The only question is whether Coleman's skill advantage is enough to offset Lesnar's size advantage. The more I think about it, I think Coleman has enough to win this thing. It should be a good fight!

Saunders FTW · 03-11-2008, 09:47 PM

Lesnar is just too much for coleman. Stronger, bigger, and a better wrestler is Lesnar

slacker00 · 03-11-2008, 10:35 PM

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Lesnar is just too much for coleman. Stronger, bigger, and a better wrestler is Lesnar

This is cage fighting, not wrestling, not body building.

Lesnar was Stronger, Bigger, and a better wrestler than Mir by a much bigger margin than he is over Coleman.

The Seer · 03-13-2008, 02:23 PM

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This is cage fighting, not wrestling, not body building.

Lesnar was Stronger, Bigger, and a better wrestler than Mir by a much bigger margin than he is over Coleman.

Slacker, I believe the difference here is that Coleman doesn't have the submission skills of Mir. I had Mir against Lesnar but depending on what number I can get it at, I would have to take Lesnar in this one.