SBR Forum - Free Picks & Sports Handicapping Legendz The PIG WSEX
BetJamaica Matchbook BetOnline
SBR - SportsBookReview.com 5Dimes The Greek Intertops
SBR Recommended Sportsbooks
1. Pinnacle Sports ... SBR Rating A+ ... Pinnacle Sports Review
2. The Greek Sports Book ... SBR Rating A+ ... The Greek Review
3. BookMaker ... SBR Rating A+ ... BookMaker Review
4. BetJamaica ... SBR Rating A+ ... BetJamaica Review
5. Legendz Sports ... SBR Rating A+ ... Legendz Review
Posters' Top Rated Sportsbooks
1. Matchbook ... 195 total points ... Matchbook Review
2. BetJamaica ... 182 total points ... BetJamaica Review
3. The Greek Sports Book ... 160 total points ... The Greek Review
4. Pinnacle Sports ... 130 total points ... Pinnacle Sports Review
5. 5Dimes ... 125 total points ... 5Dimes Review
Go Back   Sports Handicapping - Sports Betting - Sports Picks - SBR Forum > Sports Handicapping, Picks and Game Discussion > Boxing, MMA & UFC Betting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-12-2006, 06:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Arrow Boxing - Morales vs Pacquiao II - 01/21/2006

Sat 1/21 951 Erik Morales -109
08:00 PM 952 Manny Pacquiao -101

The next big fight coming up, and the first of 2006. Who do you think will win this rematch? I do know, this one is going to be good. Lets get some discussion on this. I know OWNED has some say so on this.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 10:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
 
moses millsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-25-05
Posts: 6,039
moses millsap is offline
Default

I haven't heard anything specific as to which gloves Morales will be wearing on fight night. This will be critical, imo. Supposedly he said he'll take out Manny with Reyes' gloves, because of all the whining last time from the Pacman camp for having to wear Morales' winning gloves. If he tries to show up Manny by wearing Reyes, I think Morales will have trouble, since he's been using winning gloves his whole career. Of course, Manny is seeking revenge, but so is Morales after getting thoroughly beaten by Zahir Raheem. Zahir fought out of his mind that night and that was more a factor than Morales not training or being unprepared, but what does that say about his form coming into this one? I don't know. I still think Morales is a class better than Pacquiao, but Manny has a lot of pro's his way as well, the main being that I'm positive Roach will put in a great gameplan for Manny to execute against Morales.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 10:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Default

Thanks OWNED.

Im interested to see if Pacquiao can back up what he said about using Reyes gloves. Morales should just wear the gloves he likes, and not try to prove a point. This one will be a good one.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 11:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
 
moses millsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-25-05
Posts: 6,039
moses millsap is offline
Default

Oh, by the way, did you see the two fights on showtime this past weekend? Great way to start off the year, the post fight madness in the Judah fight was hilarious. Watched the replay of that again last night. His delusional dad's screaming "Balthazar only won 3 rounds", lol. His name is BALDOMIR. Then Zab that little bit ch a$$ blames Don, then hugs him when Don approaches him, lololololol.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 11:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
bigboydan
Moderator
 
bigboydan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Posts: 42,509
bigboydan is offline
Default

i'll be watching this fight looker, but i don't bet on boxing at all. Don King specials will do that to a person
__________________
Checkout MySBR page.

Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 11:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Default

Last fight I bet on Dan, was the first Winky/Mosley fight. I have Winky +200 I think it was.

No I didnt catch those fights OWNED.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 12:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
 
moses millsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-25-05
Posts: 6,039
moses millsap is offline
Default

...

Last edited by moses millsap : 01-21-2006 at 07:43 AM. Reason: bad calculations on my part
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
 
moses millsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-25-05
Posts: 6,039
moses millsap is offline
Default

...

Last edited by moses millsap : 01-21-2006 at 07:43 AM. Reason: incorrect calculations for roi %
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 04:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
bigboydan
Moderator
 
bigboydan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Posts: 42,509
bigboydan is offline
Default

No excuses for Pacquiao and Morales in 130-pound showdown

By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
January 20, 2006


LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Manny Pacquiao has no problems with gloves this time. Ditto with hotel suites, taxes, promoters, tickets, hangers-on and fans.

He's got a cut man he believes won't allow the bleeding that went on in his first fight with Erik Morales. And he's got a trainer who is trying his best to keep Pacquiao from getting hit too much.

Simply put, there are no excuses going into the rematch Saturday night of his brawling loss to Morales 10 months ago.

"If we don't win this fight, it's just because we can't," said Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach. "Everything has been taken care of."

That wasn't the case last March when the Filipino national hero met one of the greatest Mexican champions ever in a 130-pound slugfest that ended with Pacquiao bloodied and beaten in a close but unanimous decision.

Pacquiao went into the fight feuding with his former promoter, afraid he was going to have to pay a large settlement on back taxes and burdened by having to hold up the hopes of his countrymen on his slight shoulders.


When Morales opened a deep cut over his right eye in the fifth round, Pacquiao's problems worsened.

"Every time Erik moved to his right, I couldn't see him," Pacquiao said.

Pacquiao (40-3-2, 32 knockouts) fought gamely and came on at the end of the fight but it wasn't enough to stop Morales from winning a decision in a fight where there was no title at stake but plenty of national pride on both sides.

The two meet in the rematch (HBO pay-per-view, 9 p.m. EST) at the MGM Grand hotel-casino in a fight that figures to be just as action-packed as the first.

"All I can tell you is I am looking forward to give the people a great show," Morales said. "You know, give them something to scream about, something they will enjoy, something that they will remember for a long time."

Morales is coming off an upset loss to Zahir Raheem in September on a fight card that was supposed to set up both fighters for their rematch. Pacquiao won his fight by knockout, then watched as Morales lost for just the third time in his long career.

It was the first fight for Morales (48-3, 34 knockouts) at 135 pounds, and his first loss to anyone other than Marco Antonio Barrera, who he fought in three thrilling bouts. But it wasn't enough to stop a rematch eagerly anticipated by both Mexican and Filipino fans.

"Losses shouldn't bring out the best in you, but you know somehow they do in me," Morales said. "There is nothing you can do about those things that are already in the past but I know what I am capable of doing and what I want to do in this fight."

Morales, who has held titles in three different weight classes, is suddenly in need of a big win after losing two of his last three fights. The Tijuana fighter has made a career out of standing in front of opponents and brawling with them, but must now answer questions of whether that has begun to slow him down at the age of 29.

Morales, though, says he is the same fighter he has always been, and just had a bad night against Raheem, who used movement and effective jabs and combinations to win a unanimous upset decision.

Morales said he will use the first fight as a blueprint of what he has to do in the rematch to win.

"After you have been 12 rounds with a guy there are a lot of things that you see that are good. I know he is strong. I know he is fast. I know he is a good fighter," Morales said. "But I also learned that he is not as strong as a lot of people think or I never give him the opportunity to show his power against me. I am not going to give him any openings to hit me with his best shot."

Pacquiao, whose all-out, never-quit-punching style has made him a national hero at home, says he is finally at peace with himself after a bitter split with promoter Murad Muhammad, who he blamed for making him fight with gloves he didn't like in the first fight.

Pacquiao will go with Reyes gloves in the rematch, which he said allows him to hit harder because they are made with horsehair instead of foam. Roach said he has also tried to polish his fighter's style somewhat so he won't be hit so much.

"He fights with his heart and emotion," Roach said. "People say you should change him and settle him down. But this is what makes him exciting and you can't take it away from him."
__________________
Checkout MySBR page.

Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 06:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
raiders72001
Senior Member
 
raiders72001's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Posts: 2,622
raiders72001 is offline
Default

I also liked the way that Judah blamed King for the loss. He said that King ran him all over doing promotions. Fortunately for Judahs pocket book Judah's Dad backed King.

I can't find what gloves that were agreed upon either. I'm going to post at a couple of iother forums to find out.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 07:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
raiders72001
Senior Member
 
raiders72001's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Posts: 2,622
raiders72001 is offline
Default

Morales - Winning Gloves
Pac Man - Reyes
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 09:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
 
moses millsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-25-05
Posts: 6,039
moses millsap is offline
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by raiders72001
Morales - Winning Gloves
Pac Man - Reyes
Got a link to the source? Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 01:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
raiders72001
Senior Member
 
raiders72001's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Posts: 2,622
raiders72001 is offline
Default

I asked Oddessa. He use to make the boxing lines for Oly and now has his own sportsbook.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 10:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Default

We are about 10 minutes away for the start of this fight. Should be a good one.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 10:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Default

I give round one to Morales. Both fighters come out fighting and was a good round.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 10:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator
 
onlòóker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-05
Location: Area 51
Posts: 19,127
onlòóker is online now
Default

AWESOME ROUND

Pacman almost floors Morales, but he holds himself up on the ropes. Morales comes back with good shots to slow Pacman a bit.

Round two I give to Pacman.

19-19
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 10:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
onlòóker
Moderator