[bigboydan]

UFC 77: Hostile Territory (Sat Oct 20th On PPV) @ 9pm (central time zone)


UFC WORLD MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP

Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin

MAIN CARD

Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
Yushin Okami vs. Jason MacDonald
Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes

NON-TELEVISED PRELIMINARY FIGHTS

Jason Black vs. Matt Grice
Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson
Eric Schafer vs. Stephan Bonnar
Demian Maia vs. TBA

[shady610]

the main 3 fights should be intriguing but i dont care about the rest. I like sylvia in this one. I think hes at +140 now.

[moses millsap]

Pretty average card, Franklin gets the rematch in his hometown, but I think he loses again to Silva.

[y2p731]

Franlklin is at +155 by my bookie. Last time Franklin make tatical mistakes. He probably has fixed them by now.

[bigboydan]

Don't forget fellas...This Saturday is this event and I for one can't wait.

[bigboydan]

Im going with Silva. Rich got raped in that last fight (lol). I think Silva is just too much for him. I think Rich will have a chance if he can get it on the ground, but even then Silva has good submissions and long ass legs to tie you up with. Should be alot better then the first fight though.

Im on the fence with Syliva vs Vera. About a year ago I would probably have easily picked Vera, but Vera has not fought in a year so he is probably rusty. That fight could go either way as both fighters could knock the other one out in 1 single punch. I say if Sylvia uses his jab and kicks to keep Vera at a distance and takes smart shots he will win a boring fight.

[barkus]

Silvia did have back surgery recently.. and big guys like him tend not to recover so well from that. That being said I'm all over Silvia as an underdog. I expected the line to be even.

Okami is a solid bet IMO. Okami is probably better in all areas than MacDonald. The only threat MacDonald poses is the possibility subbing Okami. But I think Okami's too strong to get bullied into a sub and too experienced to get caught in a sub.

I'll be staying away from Franklin/Silva... I don't think Franklin's been doing what he needs to do training wise to overcome a great MT/BJJ fighter like Silva. (His camp seems to be a bunch of brawlers/wrestlers... like himself).


Anyway mainly pumped for Vera/Sylvia... I have no idea how that's gonig to go.

[kanjinfo]

i have kalib starnes over alan belcher..

kalib is a beast on the ground > than belcher imo.
kalib is also training with ATT and we are bound to see vast improvements in his already decent stand up.

i have also heard that belcher may have sustained a minor leg injury during training. it will not affect his ability to fight, but may have stunted his training camp a little. in interviews ive seen, belcher doesn't seem too focused on his opp.. he's young and may be underestimating kalib.

at around -120, i think he's a solid fav with good value.

okami over MacD.. but at -200 plus, he may be a bit steep..

i also got sylvia at +171.. still amazed by the hype surrounding vera.. its going to be hilarious when he's chin checked by a beltless and hungery maine-iac.

good luck!

[louisvillekid]

i'm taking Silva and Sylvia, and leaning with Bonnar and Black.

[pegasis0066]

I don't understand the Tim Sylvia picks. He is big... ok huge, but I just don't see any skill/talent beyond his physical size.

If Vera isn't rusty, I see him running circles around the guy and winning an easy decision.

What am I missing or not seeing in Sylvia?

[bigboydan]

As much as I want to lay the big wood with Sylvia in this fight, I just can't lay -220.


Heres the odds on the entire UFC tomorrow night:

10/20/2007 9:00 PM  	Rich Franklin vs Anderson Silva
381 	Rich Franklin    	 +180 	 
382 	Anderson Silva    	 -220 	 
10/20/2007 8:30 PM 	Tim Sylvia vs Brandon Vera
383 	Tim Sylvia    	 +140 	 
384 	Brandon Vera    	 -165 	 
10/20/2007 7:30 PM 	Stephan Bonnar vs Eric Schafer
385 	Stephan Bonnar    	 -345 	 
386 	Eric Schafer    	 +285 	 
10/20/2007 6:30 PM 	Yushin Okami vs Jason MacDonald
387 	Yushin Okami    	 -240 	 
388 	Jason MacDonald    	 +200 	 
10/20/2007 5:00 PM 	Jason Black vs Matt Grice
389 	Jason Black    	 -340 	 
390 	Matt Grice    	 +280 	 
10/20/2007 8:00 PM 	Jorge Gurgel vs Alvin Robinson
391 	Jorge Gurgel    	 -155 	 
392 	Alvin Robinson    	 +130 	 
10/20/2007 7:00 PM 	Alan Belcher vs Kalib Starnes
393 	Alan Belcher    	 +100 	 
394 	Kalib Starnes    	 -125 	 
10/20/2007 6:00 PM 	Ryan Jensen vs Demian Maia
395 	Ryan Jensen    	 +160 	 
396 	Demian Maia    	 -200 	 
10/20/2007 5:30 PM 	Josh Burkman vs Forrest Petz
397 	Josh Burkman    	 -290 	 
398 	Forrest Petz    	 +240

[goldengoat]

Originally Posted by kanjinfo

i have kalib starnes over alan belcher..

kalib is a beast on the ground > than belcher imo.
kalib is also training with ATT and we are bound to see vast improvements in his already decent stand up.

i have also heard that belcher may have sustained a minor leg injury during training. it will not affect his ability to fight, but may have stunted his training camp a little. in interviews ive seen, belcher doesn't seem too focused on his opp.. he's young and may be underestimating kalib.

at around -120, i think he's a solid fav with good value.

okami over MacD.. but at -200 plus, he may be a bit steep..

i also got sylvia at +171.. still amazed by the hype surrounding vera.. its going to be hilarious when he's chin checked by a beltless and hungery maine-iac.

good luck!

i would have to go with starnes too

[goldengoat]

Originally Posted by pegasis0066

I don't understand the Tim Sylvia picks. He is big... ok huge, but I just don't see any skill/talent beyond his physical size.

If Vera isn't rusty, I see him running circles around the guy and winning an easy decision.

What am I missing or not seeing in Sylvia?

Vera is faster and more accurate plus he has better kicks

vera is probably a little better on the ground but Tim is decent there for a big guy

i think the line is the way it is because Tim can end it at any time with one big right hand

plus he has a lot of experience and can go the distance if need be

i like vera but the line is very understandable imo

[The Baron]

Sylvia will knock Vera out or they will just dance in circles until Sylvia wins a decision.

[goldengoat]

franklin got destroyed again

can't say i'm surprised...you could see the doubt creep back into his eyes the first time anderson went for the clinch....even though franklin got out of it that 1st time, the doubt was clearly evident on his face

rich's looping punches and weak clinch is just tailored made for anderson

[Nightwolfkicksaz]

Franklin doesn't look like the same fighter he was 2 years ago. Maybe Silva just arranged that for him.