[Pride>UFC]

I understand that homosexuals make up a large part of the MMA community, but why does everyone love GSP so much?

He's not a top 3 pound for pound fighter and here's why...

Anderson Silva, Fedor, and BJ Penn have not lost a fight in their own weight class for over a half a decade. Meanwhile, GSP lost to a not top 10 fighter and don't even acknowledge it. Yes, he avenged the loss, but he lost.

BJ, Silva, and Fedor would never lose to such a scrub.

In addition, he can't finish his opponents. Fitch and Koscheck are good fighters, but BJ, Silva, and Fedor don't have trouble finishing guys in their weight class.

GSP's well-roundedness is a myth, he takes them down, wears them out, and then throws a few punches and kicks before taking them down again. I'd like to see him stand up in the 1st round, oh wait, see Serra/GSP 1, that's what happens when GSP stands with someone...

[brooks85]

im tired of you

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by brooks85

im tired of you

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

I understand that homosexuals make up a large part of the MMA community, but why does everyone love GSP so much?

He's not a top 3 pound for pound fighter and here's why...

Anderson Silva, Fedor, and BJ Penn have not lost a fight in their own weight class for over a half a decade. Meanwhile, GSP lost to a not top 10 fighter and don't even acknowledge it. Yes, he avenged the loss, but he lost.

BJ, Silva, and Fedor would never lose to such a scrub.

In addition, he can't finish his opponents. Fitch and Koscheck are good fighters, but BJ, Silva, and Fedor don't have trouble finishing guys in their weight class.

GSP's well-roundedness is a myth, he takes them down, wears them out, and then throws a few punches and kicks before taking them down again. I'd like to see him stand up in the 1st round, oh wait, see Serra/GSP 1, that's what happens when GSP stands with someone...

Bj lost to Jens Pulver. Anderson Silva came crazy close to losing to Travis Lutter. In Pride, Silva also was tapped out by a guy who now has more losses then wins.
Point being, that kind of stuff, it happens. No one is invincible.

[The HOFF]

Pride>UFC definitely takes it in the rear.

[Pride>UFC]

Originally Posted by Tree Rollins

Bj lost to Jens Pulver. Anderson Silva came crazy close to losing to Travis Lutter. In Pride, Silva also was tapped out by a guy who now has more losses then wins. Point being, that kind of stuff, it happens. No one is invincible.

yeah that Pulver fight was a decade ago, and the Silva fight was over 5 years ago...Matt Serra submitted GSP to strikes under 3 years ago...

[Pride>UFC]

Originally Posted by The HOFF

Pride>UFC definitely takes it in the rear.

coming from a brock lesnar fan...who has a dick on his chest

[Pride>UFC]

Originally Posted by brooks85

im tired of you

do you spank your monkey to GSP highlights?

[The HOFF]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

coming from a brock lesnar fan...who has a dick on his chest

[Boddhissatva]

In any P4P discussion a compelling argument can be made for BJ, GSP, Fedor and A. Silva.

Criticizing GSP for not "finishing" opponents or "taking down opponents" is ridiculous...especially if that opponent is Thiago Alves.

It's called playing to your opponents weaknesses and strengths. Alves is one scary fu*king guy and we see what he does to opponents who stand with him...

And let's look at Jon Fitch...no one....no one has beat this guy in the UFC besides GSP.

Criticizing GSP for not "finishing fights" is as absurd as criticizing PBF for not "brawling" and not finishing fights.

[RobbReport]

GSP has great striking, look what he did to Fitch and Heiron. I just wish he had more confidence in it and wasn't so gun-shy after Serra. Obviously he doesn't want to get TKO'ed again but I don't think he wants GNP to be what he is ultimately known for. Like Boddhist said, he's just being smart and displaying an array of offense, that he uses as a strong defense.

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

yeah that Pulver fight was a decade ago, and the Silva fight was over 5 years ago...Matt Serra submitted GSP to strikes under 3 years ago...

If you're going to say that 10 years ago doesn't count b/c it wasn't the same BJ Penn. And 5 years ago doesn't count b/c that wasn't the same Anderson Silva. Then you could use the same excuse for GSP and say that 3 years ago his loss to Serra doesn't really count b/c it wasn't the same GSP.

[Pride>UFC]

Originally Posted by Tree Rollins

If you're going to say that 10 years ago doesn't count b/c it wasn't the same BJ Penn. And 5 years ago doesn't count b/c that wasn't the same Anderson Silva. Then you could use the same excuse for GSP and say that 3 years ago his loss to Serra doesn't really count b/c it wasn't the same GSP.

yeah because we all know that 10 years and 5 years is the same as 3 years against a can who was in no one's top 10 at the time, right...thanks for trying though

[Pride>UFC]

Originally Posted by Boddhissatva

In any P4P discussion a compelling argument can be made for BJ, GSP, Fedor and A. Silva. Criticizing GSP for not "finishing" opponents or "taking down opponents" is ridiculous...especially if that opponent is Thiago Alves. It's called playing to your opponents weaknesses and strengths. Alves is one scary fu*king guy and we see what he does to opponents who stand with him... And let's look at Jon Fitch...no one....no one has beat this guy in the UFC besides GSP. Criticizing GSP for not "finishing fights" is as absurd as criticizing PBF for not "brawling" and not finishing fights.

finishing your opponent shows dominance and an ability to showcase superiority and force the referee to stop the fight. GSP does what it takes to eek out and beat an opponent, not win the actual fight and leave the audience satisfied with a conclusion...BJ, Fedor, and Silva destroy their opponents regardless of whether or not they're the #1 contender. GSP does "what it takes" to win.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

I understand that homosexuals make up a large part of the MMA community, but why does everyone love GSP so much?

lol, man you sure talk lot about GSP, almost like you have a crush on him. You are angry at the fact you are turned on by his tight shorts and sexy french accent, so you come on here and bash him. But accept it you can't get him out of your minf, you can't stop posting about him, accept ypur love for GSP

[RobbReport]

you wanna tweak his nipples for him in the octagon...

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

yeah because we all know that 10 years and 5 years is the same as 3 years against a can who was in no one's top 10 at the time, right...thanks for trying though

That's like saying a loss by chuck liddell 3 years ago is a lot worse then a loss by randy couture 5 years ago. The number of years is really arbitrary unless you're comparing a 25 year old fighter to a 40 year old. Your only argument is that this loss was more recent so it's worse and you have no reason why. I own you and if this was facebook you would be making a request to be my girlfriend right now b/c you're my bitch.

[Tree Rollins]

Actually the number of years can matter but you are to stupid to explain why.

[The HOFF]

Originally Posted by Tree Rollins

I own you and if this was facebook you would be making a request to be my girlfriend right now b/c you're my bitch.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

OMG! I don't have any points right now but I will hit you up soon as I get some. HAHA!

[Busterflywheel]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

I understand that homosexuals make up a large part of the MMA community, but why does everyone love GSP so much?

He's not a top 3 pound for pound fighter and here's why...

Anderson Silva, Fedor, and BJ Penn have not lost a fight in their own weight class for over a half a decade. Meanwhile, GSP lost to a not top 10 fighter and don't even acknowledge it. Yes, he avenged the loss, but he lost.

BJ, Silva, and Fedor would never lose to such a scrub.

In addition, he can't finish his opponents. Fitch and Koscheck are good fighters, but BJ, Silva, and Fedor don't have trouble finishing guys in their weight class.

GSP's well-roundedness is a myth, he takes them down, wears them out, and then throws a few punches and kicks before taking them down again. I'd like to see him stand up in the 1st round, oh wait, see Serra/GSP 1, that's what happens when GSP stands with someone...

[squallsquall]

Pride>UFC, your "predictions" haven't exactly been spot on. Also, you act like a total dick. Why would anyone listen to your ramblings?

[kahnner]

Pride your an idiot!
Gsp is dominant, nobody can touch him! Ever since he took that serra fight lightly and serra got lucky he has dominated everyone! Nobody has even come close to beating him! not even close! He beat the hell out of bj penn!
doesnt matter if he finishes or not he dominates and makes the guys look helpless!

[bluefish]

I'm tired

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by Pride>UFC

finishing your opponent shows dominance and an ability to showcase superiority and force the referee to stop the fight. GSP does what it takes to eek out and beat an opponent, not win the actual fight and leave the audience satisfied with a conclusion...BJ, Fedor, and Silva destroy their opponents regardless of whether or not they're the #1 contender. GSP does "what it takes" to win.

Wrong again, this is getting sad. For someone with the words pride and ufc in your name, you know very little about MMA. You keep talking about BJ penn destroying people when he lost handily to the very person you're crying about, GSP. And where was this killer instinct you're talking about when silva fought thales leites. In that fight he did "what it takes to win", which is exactly what you're crying and blubbering about.

[knownone]

As much as I hate to say it I kinda agree with Pride on a few things.

GSP isn't as talented or physically gifted as a BJ Penn or an Anderson Silva so he wouldn't be in my top 3 p4p list (he'd be fourth behind fedor).
However what GSP lacks in overall talent he makes up for in planning, Let's face it the guy always has the best game plan to neutralize his opponent and he executes those game plans flawlessly, He's not flashy or exciting but he knows how to win and he does it well.

Keep in mind when I say "lacks talent" I mean compareable to A. Silva or BJ the guy is light years ahead of his division.

[afmsu9441]

Yawn, another troll attempt...

[Kaladarus]

GSP always talks about making a legacy out of his career. Yet he refuses to move up in weight and fight Anderson Silva. Penn, Silva and Fedor all have fought guys bigger than them and are always up for the challenge. I am also tired of the overrated GSP. However P4P he does win easy decisions in his division and that does rank him up there on paper. Unfortunately as far as making a legacy out of his career goes, he's got to challenge himself against the best. Instead of doing this he is always thinking about joining the olympic wrestling teams and getting destroyed there because I'm sure that will look awesome for him when he decides to look back on it.

[MaInIsLe]

Fedor should come to the UFC already, get it done Dana.

[kahnner]

Originally Posted by kaladarus

gsp always talks about making a legacy out of his career. Yet he refuses to move up in weight and fight anderson silva. Penn, silva and fedor all have fought guys bigger than them and are always up for the challenge. I am also tired of the overrated gsp. However p4p he does win easy decisions in his division and that does rank him up there on paper. Unfortunately as far as making a legacy out of his career goes, he's got to challenge himself against the best. Instead of doing this he is always thinking about joining the olympic wrestling teams and getting destroyed there because i'm sure that will look awesome for him when he decides to look back on it.

who has fedor fought that was a great fighter since he fought in pride?
nobody! He won't come to the ufc and keeps fighting average fighters at best!
I'm not even a huge gsp fan, but this guy is one of the top 3 fighters p4p in the sport, handsdown!
People are saying he lacks talent- he is probally the best wrestler right now in mma! When he fights so called best of the best wrestlers he destroyes them on the ground!

Anyways the best fight ufc could ever make would be silva vs gsp!
I think it will eventually happen if gsp and silva are both around for a couple more years!

[Tree Rollins]

Originally Posted by Kaladarus

GSP always talks about making a legacy out of his career. Yet he refuses to move up in weight and fight Anderson Silva. Penn, Silva and Fedor all have fought guys bigger than them and are always up for the challenge. I am also tired of the overrated GSP. However P4P he does win easy decisions in his division and that does rank him up there on paper. Unfortunately as far as making a legacy out of his career goes, he's got to challenge himself against the best. Instead of doing this he is always thinking about joining the olympic wrestling teams and getting destroyed there because I'm sure that will look awesome for him when he decides to look back on it.

I might be uninformed, but when did gsp refuse to fight silva? As far as i know the fight was never offered. It has been brought up as a possible catchweight super-fight and Dana White says when both fighters clear out their division, he will consider the fight. They both have pretty much done that, so that fight could potentially be on the horizon.

[Kaladarus]

Originally Posted by kahnner

who has fedor fought that was a great fighter since he fought in pride?
nobody! He won't come to the ufc and keeps fighting average fighters at best!
I'm not even a huge gsp fan, but this guy is one of the top 3 fighters p4p in the sport, handsdown!
People are saying he lacks talent- he is probally the best wrestler right now in mma! When he fights so called best of the best wrestlers he destroyes them on the ground!

Anyways the best fight ufc could ever make would be silva vs gsp!
I think it will eventually happen if gsp and silva are both around for a couple more years!

Fedor is more than willing to sign a deal with the UFC, its Dana White thats not allowing it. He only signs 1 fight deals, Dana wants to give him a 6fight+ deal and then talks shit about him behind his back for not taking it. Says he's not the best fighter. Even though we all know the reason Dana wont sign Fedor is because he is scared. If Fedor signs with the UFC on his terms, (1 fight at a time) and then leaves after beating Lesnar, the UFC will be a joke organization. He doesn't believe he's the best in the world but is too scared to sign him because he might leave after the fight. I doubt he would want to leave from the UFC and he's not scared to fight anyone. He accepts fights no matter what, if any UFC fighter was to go to Strikeforce, he would immidiatly accept the challenge. I dont understand how Dana not signing Fedor drops Fedor on the list of P4P best.

GSP is a great fighter, no one doubts that. I'm not saying he's not one of the best p4p, but unlike other top p4p fighters he's not willing to challenge himself at the next level. As for his wrestling he is not the best wrestler in the UFC, he has said so himself. He simply catches people off guard to take them down, he does not out wrestle them to take them down. This requires great skill, but it does not make him the best wrestler. Not to mention the issue of his wrestling was brought up in regards to him leaving MMA to join the olympics.

[kahnner]

Originally Posted by kaladarus

fedor is more than willing to sign a deal with the ufc, its dana white thats not allowing it. He only signs 1 fight deals, dana wants to give him a 6fight+ deal and then talks shit about him behind his back for not taking it. Says he's not the best fighter. Even though we all know the reason dana wont sign fedor is because he is scared. If fedor signs with the ufc on his terms, (1 fight at a time) and then leaves after beating lesnar, the ufc will be a joke organization. He doesn't believe he's the best in the world but is too scared to sign him because he might leave after the fight. I doubt he would want to leave from the ufc and he's not scared to fight anyone. He accepts fights no matter what, if any ufc fighter was to go to strikeforce, he would immidiatly accept the challenge. I dont understand how dana not signing fedor drops fedor on the list of p4p best.

Gsp is a great fighter, no one doubts that. I'm not saying he's not one of the best p4p, but unlike other top p4p fighters he's not willing to challenge himself at the next level. As for his wrestling he is not the best wrestler in the ufc, he has said so himself. He simply catches people off guard to take them down, he does not out wrestle them to take them down. This requires great skill, but it does not make him the best wrestler. Not to mention the issue of his wrestling was brought up in regards to him leaving mma to join the olympics.

first off the main reason fedor doesnt sign with the ufc is because fedor preatty much wants half the company he wants his m1 global to partner with the ufc! That is the main reason! Why would dana white do that. He offered fedor a huge, huge amount of money! If fedor really wanted to sign he would! He hasn't faught anybody in awhile and thats a fact! It was all set for him to come to ufc and he was greedy! I still have him #3 on my best p4p!

As for gsp, his wrestling is one of the best if not the best! Of course he isn't going to say he's the best he never does about anything! Dana white makes the matches! He also fights all the top contenders in his wight class and destroys them and also just beat the hell out of bj penn! He has dominated the best wrestlers on the ground, if he wasnt a great wrestler some of the guys he faught that were great wrestlers would of did a lot better against him!

Like i said before a gsp vs silva fight would be a great fight! Hope it happens!

[knownone]

Originally Posted by kahnner

first off the main reason fedor doesnt sign with the ufc is because fedor preatty much wants half the company he wants his m1 global to partner with the ufc! That is the main reason! Why would dana white do that. He offered fedor a huge, huge amount of money! If fedor really wanted to sign he would! He hasn't faught anybody in awhile and thats a fact! It was all set for him to come to ufc and he was greedy! I still have him #3 on my best p4p!

As for gsp, his wrestling is one of the best if not the best! Of course he isn't going to say he's the best he never does about anything! Dana white makes the matches! He also fights all the top contenders in his wight class and destroys them and also just beat the hell out of bj penn! He has dominated the best wrestlers on the ground, if he wasnt a great wrestler some of the guys he faught that were great wrestlers would of did a lot better against him!

Like i said before a gsp vs silva fight would be a great fight! Hope it happens!

GSP has amazing top control and amazing take downs aside from that he's an above average wrestler, I don't think he's better than Josh Koscheck on pure wrestling koscheck is lightyears ahead of GSP but in MMA with all the variables GSP can out wrestling Koscheck in the same vain that Frank Mir can out strike Kongo.
When I look at GSP he's a top 2 wrestler and a top 5 striker at WW.
The problem with wrestling being your strength is size it plays a huge role in how well you can control your opponent; Imagine GSP fighting Dan Henderson at 185 I don't think he would fare to well, Could he take down Nate Marquardt?
Thats why you hear people say he's not as talented as BJ Penn or Anderson even Fedor.

[Pabinator]

In MMA it is very hard not to lose a fight especially when one shot to the chin can stun anyone. GSP is a amazing fighter and he isnt even close to overrated.

[brooks85]

GSP starts training with the visiting Mousasi soon. I would love to see those sessions.