[Illusion]

Alright guys, do you think Tito has a chnace in this one?

Sat 12/30 Chuck Liddell vs Tito Ortiz
08:15 PM 201 Chuck Liddell -261
202 Tito Ortiz +241

[moses millsap]

Chalk. Thought FG got robbed against Tito and Liddell keeps knocking people out.

[LLXC]

I think Chuck will keep his title.

[goldengoat]

chuck is the pick

tito better believe he can do some damage and stop fearing liddel or it's gonna be a bad showing for him

[flyingillini]

staying away from that one..but the gimme of the whole card is
215 Thiago Alves -136
im unloading on this. i will be there if anyone from this board is going let me know....

[goldengoat]

get some pics with the ring card girls

[Illusion]

Here is the entire card:

Sat 12/30 Andrei Arlovski vs Marcio Cruz
08:00 PM 207 Andrei Arlovski -476
208 Marcio Cruz +436

Sat 12/30 Gabriel Gonzaga vs Carmelo Marrero
08:00 PM 209 Gabriel Gonzaga -276
210 Carmelo Marrero +256

Sat 12/30 Christian Wellisch vs Anthony Perosh
08:00 PM 211 Christian Wellisch -151
212 Anthony Perosh +141

Sat 12/30 Chuck Liddell vs Tito Ortiz
08:00 PM 201 Chuck Liddell -256
202 Tito Ortiz +236

Sat 12/30 Forrest Griffin vs Keith Jardine
08:00 PM 203 Forrest Griffin -296
204 Keith Jardine +266

Sat 12/30 Michael Bisping vs Eric Schafer
08:00 PM 205 Michael Bisping -416
206 Eric Schafer +376

Sat 12/30 Yushin Okami vs Rory Singer
08:00 PM 213 Yushin Okami -436
214 Rory Singer +396

Sat 12/30 Chris Leben vs Jason MacDonald
08:00 PM 217 Chris Leben -211
218 Jason MacDonald +191

Sat 12/30 Thiago Alves vs Tony DeSouza
08:00 PM 215 Thiago Alves -121
216 Tony DeSouza +111

[goldengoat]

the card looks exciting to me and i look forward to it

a couple of the fights i don't know much about though but they will be dark matches anyway

[Illusion]

Hey gg, what do you think Jardine's chances are of upsetting Forrest?

[punchmaster]

[quote=Illusion]Here is the entire card:

Sat 12/30 Andrei Arlovski vs Marcio Cruz
08:00 PM 207 Andrei Arlovski -476
208 Marcio Cruz +436

Should Arlovski really be this much of a favorite...., Cruz handled Mir (albeit a post injured one) rather easy and Arlovski's confidence and mind might not be at the top right now.

[punchmaster]

Originally Posted by flyingillini

staying away from that one..but the gimme of the whole card is
215 Thiago Alves -136
im unloading on this. i will be there if anyone from this board is going let me know....

Interesting that more money has come in on DeSouza and Alves has been available at -114- must be a steal in your eyes.

[goldengoat]

Originally Posted by Illusion

Hey gg, what do you think Jardine's chances are of upsetting Forrest?

i like forrest by decision but no way at that price

the line should be more like -180 for forrest

forrest is a little bit quicker than jardine in the standup and can get in and out

however he does like to mix it up which would be a mistake

jardine does not have chuck liddell power but he has a decent amount of power, enough to get forrest in trouble for a finish

jardine has good leg kicks which could play a factor too

i cannot give a strong opinion here although if the line was even i would go forrest

[goldengoat]

[quote=punchmaster]

Originally Posted by Illusion

Here is the entire card:

Sat 12/30 Andrei Arlovski vs Marcio Cruz
08:00 PM 207 Andrei Arlovski -476
208 Marcio Cruz +436

Should Arlovski really be this much of a favorite...., Cruz handled Mir (albeit a post injured one) rather easy and Arlovski's confidence and mind might not be at the top right now.

cruz's standup is no where near arlovski's

cruz is better on the ground technically but AA is a better athlete

no one has seen enough of AA on the ground to form a strong opinion

I like AA by KO but that price is too high

mir is pretty much a punching bag these days and even his ground game is a shadow of what it used to be

cruz will probably immediately try to hug AA and get a body lock for a leg trip and work his world class jiu jitsu

if cruz decides to box with AA it will be comical

[Illusion]

Keith Jardine really made Forrest look like a bitch. I thought Griffin was gonna cry after being pounded like that.

[onlòóker]

Originally Posted by Illusion

Keith Jardine really made Forrest look like a bitch. I thought Griffin was gonna cry after being pounded like that.

At least he said he got knock the fcuk out in the interview. Got to give it to him for not making any excuses.

[goldengoat]

jardine showed some killer instinct in there

lol forrest did lose it there emotionally a bit but it was probably all those $$$$ going down the tube he was thinking about

next ufc looks like a good card too although the lines are probably going to be pretty ugly on some of the fights