[LT Profits]

You may never get +155 on Scott Kazmir ever again!

[fiveteamer]

bleh, red sox are on a mission.

would not touch this one.

[LT Profits]

I couldn't pass up this value, expecially when you compare Kazmir's stats to Dice-K's. Not that much difference.

[AnotherLoan]

He is +155 for a reason. Rays have no offense without Crawford and Longoria and the Red Sox are only 10-1 in Matsuzaka's last 11 starts.

[Fishhead]

I would seriously contemplate looking at the +1.5 on the Rays........

[big joe 1212]

Rays are very streaky! Take when hot, bet against when not. They are pretty easy team to figure out!

[pavyracer]

The only way I bet this game is if there was DNB like soccer. How are the Rays going to score?

[bigp69]

Theres no way I would bet the rays here.

[LT Profits]

You guys do realize Kazmir has allowed 0 runs and a grand total of 4 (that's FOUR) hits with 13 strukeouts in his last two starts right? No way I lay any odds against him right now.

[AnotherLoan]

Take the under then if you want to because the Rays won't put up any runs.

[LT Profits]

Originally Posted by AnotherLoan

Take the under then if you want to because the Rays won't put up any runs.

Not a bad plan.

But I'd rather take the +155 on what should be a +120 or so.

[LT Profits]

Don't forget about Tampa pen either, second lowest ERA in AL. I see a tight low scoring game late, and if that turns out to be true, I'll be holding +155 on what is essentially a toss up.

[picantel]

I took the rays also. Also took KC at +195(bannister is 3-0 against the twins) and Texas +140(Hernandez is 0-3 this year against texas and 4-7 lifetime). Why the hell not I always say.

[fiveteamer]

I like Texas out of those 3.

[ryanXL977]

im on tb
people seem to think that the bosox will never lose, its 162 games
ill take kaz at +155

[Brady2Moss]

TB +155 is the sharp play

[soni]

take first the white sox then take tampa if you will

[stump]

I'm on the Rays as well. Too much value and you would think they will finally steal one in boston. Only thing that worries me is that Kazmir is a 5 inning pitcher and the bullpen late in games scares me

[gordon gekko]

[ryanXL977]

one game, anyone can win
ill take kaz at+150 anyday

[unde0087]

If you can't hit you can't win, it doesn't matter who is on the mound. Kazmir is good but so is Matuzaka especially at home. There is no value at +155.

[ryanXL977]

matsuzaka aint in kaz league

ill take tb ff
easy call

[Wilforth]

BoSOx is chalky. Rays won't score. Under is the play here.
The easier value plays are the Royals and Texas.

[unde0087]

D'Rays aren't in Boston's league, the clock struck 12 on the D'Rays miracle season, I don't have a side on this one but if I did, Boston RL

Kazmir has faced the Red Sox twice this season, 9 innings gave up 8 runs on 13 hits. R'Rays are 0-7 against Red Sox at Fenway this season. When Boston sends Matuzaka to the mound they are 21-4 this season. Hence +155

[Wilforth]

Originally Posted by LT Profits

You guys do realize Kazmir has allowed 0 runs and a grand total of 4 (that's FOUR) hits with 13 strukeouts in his last two starts right? No way I lay any odds against him right now.

That Kazmir has allowed 0 runs in his L2 is one reason not to play him today. The law of averages has a cynical way of working such that he may give away enough runs in his next 2 to "maintain" his ERA.

[ryanXL977]

Originally Posted by unde0087

D'Rays aren't in Boston's league, the clock struck 12 on the D'Rays miracle season, I don't have a side on this one but if I did, Boston RL

Kazmir has faced the Red Sox twice this season, 9 innings gave up 8 runs on 13 hits. R'Rays are 0-7 against Red Sox at Fenway this season. When Boston sends Matuzaka to the mound they are 21-4 this season. Hence +155

what kazmir has done vs boston this year has no bearing on today and is a tiny cample anyway
you keep lookin at the wrong stats

[Wilforth]

Originally Posted by ryanXL977

matsuzaka aint in kaz league

ill take tb ff
easy call

That may be true but BoSox will score and the Rays won't. It takes more than good pitching to win a game.

[ryanXL977]

you dont know if thee rays will score or not, nor do i
thats the hting, everyone assumes the better team wins every game, like last night, the reds won

worse teams win all the time
ill take kaz ff

[ryanXL977]

heres a meaningless stat for you guys to ponder

matsuzaka is 1-3 lifetime vs tb

which means absolutely nohting

[unde0087]

no shit the best team doesn't always win, I am just telling you that Kazmir at +155 isn't the great bet you think especially since his team is now coming back to real life.

[ryanXL977]

i know what you are saying, and i will take kaz first five bc i agree with you

certainly its not a bad bet

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by LT Profits

Don't forget about Tampa pen either, second lowest ERA in AL. I see a tight low scoring game late, and if that turns out to be true, I'll be holding +155 on what is essentially a toss up.

.....precisely why you should consider taking +1.5 with a live road team.

[ryanXL977]

then the value is gone
you want to lay -145 for 1.5 runs, the value is gone
the whole point oif taking tb is bc they are dogs, once you lay -145 , they aint dogs anymore

[LT Profits]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

.....precisely why you should consider taking +1.5 with a live road team.

I think the bigger edge is with +155 on the ML here. Then again, I never play run lines, unless it's an alternate run line on a road dog at -1.5 at monster odds.

[LT Profits]

And Ryan is dead on. +155 ML is better than +1.5 -145 in long run.