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Old 05-11-2008, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are they this good or are the Nats just this bad?
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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marlins should finish 500
nats should win 68 -70

so there ya have it
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Alot of posters on the Marlins today, and this win is particularly sweet because of the way it happened.

Congrats, Marlins backers!
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Go Fish!!
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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straight up the marlins are money makers this year.... :-D
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As a longtime Marlins fan I can shed some light on the team.

First and foremost, they historically get little exposure from national media because they are a very small market team. Also, baseball fans seem to be under the impression that the Marlins get rid of their big name players and get nothing back.

Wrong.

For every Josh Beckett and Miguel Cabrera they lose, they gain a Hanley Ramirez and a Cameron Maybin.

Is it likely they will win the NL East? No. But I put $50 to win $2000 on them to win the NLCS because it's possible. No way that team should be 40-1 to win the NLCS. I'll take them all night long like Lionel Ritchie at that price.

Their second best hitter (Josh Willingham) has been on the DL for 2 weeks and they are still scoring runs. Their bullpen is lights out and they are missing 2 key starters in Anibal Sanchez (who threw a no-no) and Josh Johnson.

They just signed Ramirez to a 70 million dollar deal and if Cameron Maybin can be the player he is capable of in CF, this team will be a playoff contender in 2009 if not this year.

Scott Olsen at +114 against the Nats was a fukin joke and I was ALL over that price.

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Old 05-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I was happy for the nice comeback win, especially since it ended up being my only win out of 4.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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scott olsen was so-so today
they won bc uggla got hot and the nattys pen blew it
i like the fish but they aint winning the east, not with that lineup and not with that pitching
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The Marlins are taking advantage of a weak division. Plus, I think they're trying prove a point with each victory - a big payroll doesn't guarantee a quality team.

It's crazy to think that A-Rod makes more than the entire Marlins roster.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Plus, they have to prove that they're a worthy investment for that new stadium proposal.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The Marlins are talented, but I don't think they are going to win anything. Hendrickson is pitching way over his head. And their pitching staff in general has no top of the rotation guys. Scott Olsen might have figured it out, but other than him there is nothing as far as pitching.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The Marlins are talented, but I don't think they are going to win anything. Hendrickson is pitching way over his head. And their pitching staff in general has no top of the rotation guys. Scott Olsen might have figured it out, but other than him there is nothing as far as pitching.
I think they have a shot - Atlanta, Washington, and the Phillies aren't pitching that much better.

The great thing about the Marlins is that they play as a team. There's no franchise player, some multi-millionaire hotshot asshole trying to steal the show. They're all in it together. Team chemistry goes a long way (in any sport).
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First, Hanley Ramirez is a franchise player.

Second, all the other teams aren't pitching, but all the other teams have pitchers with track records. The marlins have the least pitching in the division. We don't know if Olsen is a mirage, and Hendrickson is not good enough to keep this up.

Third, they might be in it together, but I don't really think that matters in baseball. The more talented team will win in almost every situation in the long run.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
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First, Hanley Ramirez is a franchise player.

Second, all the other teams aren't pitching, but all the other teams have pitchers with track records. The marlins have the least pitching in the division. We don't know if Olsen is a mirage, and Hendrickson is not good enough to keep this up.

Third, they might be in it together, but I don't really think that matters in baseball. The more talented team will win in almost every situation in the long run.
Not true. Look at the Detroit Tigers. They're an extremely talented team, but they're not winning. Look at the NY Yankees - they're an extremely talented team, but they're not winning. The Angels are a great team, but Oakland's right there with them in the AL West division. Seattle's a great team, but they're not winning.

Baltimore, Tampa Bay, Florida, & Oakland - none of these teams have great depth or exceptional talent (from top to bottom), but they all have great team chemistry. These guys live to play and their win/loss records reflect the success of that drive.
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hanley is the best player in baseball
was last year also
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There is noway this will last, but I will say that it's great for baseball.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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There is noway this will last, but I will say that it's great for baseball.
Maybe not Florida, but I think that Tampa Bay is the real deal. I've been talking up Tampa Bay since preseason.
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