[Doc JS]

but the rest of the divsion plays the same way

Not really...

Team ERA
Phillies 4th in NL 4.00
Mets 5th in NL 4.05
Marlins 14th in NL 4.60

Bullpen ERA
Phillies 2nd in MLB 3.04
Marlins 10th in MLB 3.77
Mets 18th in MLB 4.10

Errors
Marlins 1st in NL with 88 errors
Mets 8th in NL with 67 errors
Phillies 11th in NL with 66 errors

Home Runs
Marlins 1st in NL with 151
Phillies 2nd in NL with 150
Mets 10th in NL with 107

[ryanXL977]

so from those stats there is no clear winner
they all have major problems
defense for the marlins
pen and hitting with the mets

actually, from those numbers, they agree with me that philly wins

[TheLock]

I'm writing my answer before reading everyone else's replies...

Short answer: Sell

I was raised on the baseball saw: Pitching, Defense, and timely Hittting.

They don't pitch it. Starters ERA is like 27th in MLB.

They don't catch it. Tons of errors.

They do hit the hell out of the baseball.

I just don't think you can win a division playing Gorilla Baseball.

Just my two cents...

Doc

Completely meaningless post simply based on the fact that Josh Johnson returned last week and Anibal Sanchez returns tonight.

When you don't have your #3 and #4 starter all year and Mark Hendrickson and Rick Vandenhurk fill in, yeah your ERA will tend to suck.

With Johnson and Sanchez back, the ERA will go down.



The NL East is CLEARLY a 3 team race. Its August. Pretenders don't make it till August.

[TheLock]

no I say that cause I am just keepin real

I can't even name a pitcher the Marlins

their pitching stinks

So because MJFtheGenius can't name a pitcher on the Marlins, they can't win the NL East.


Its all been figured out guys. Time to close the thread.

[TheLock]

This is not a value bet. No chance marlins come out on top of the mets and the phils.

How about a friendly ban bet?


If the Marlins DON'T win the NL East, I will take a week off.


If the Marlins DO win the NL East, you take a month off.


deal?

[BeatTheJerk]

yayyyyyyyyyyy............ you guys are talking about my suprising marlins im flattered !

[pat venditto]

The lock you got it pal lol I hope you enjoy your vacation.

[TheLock]

The lock you got it pal lol I hope you enjoy your vacation.

Alright kid it's a deal.

[Doc JS]

Completely meaningless post simply based on the fact that Josh Johnson returned last week and Anibal Sanchez returns tonight.

When you don't have your #3 and #4 starter all year and Mark Hendrickson and Rick Vandenhurk fill in, yeah your ERA will tend to suck.

With Johnson and Sanchez back, the ERA will go down.



The NL East is CLEARLY a 3 team race. Its August. Pretenders don't make it till August.

Johnson and Sanchez returning don't change what the numbers are. The numbers are what they are. And right now, Florida's ERA is 14th in the NL.

And Johnson and Sanchez don't figure to help the fact that the Marlins can't catch the baseball. 1st in the NL with 88 errors.

[TheLock]

Johnson and Sanchez returning don't change what the numbers are. The numbers are what they are. And right now, Florida's ERA is 14th in the NL.

And Johnson and Sanchez don't figure to help the fact that the Marlins can't catch the baseball. 1st in the NL with 88 errors.

Johnson and Sanchez returning doesn't change the numbers? LOL WUT?

yeah it won't change the first half stats but it WILL change the 2nd half stats......check this out too:

Since June 31st, the Marlins team ERA is sub 4 to put them at SIXTH in all of MLB.

You won't get an argument from me about their defense. They are god awful. But a team that leads all of MLB in HR's can sometimes outrun their defensive mishaps.

[ryanXL977]

i think phils win the east, but at this point i dont see why the fish cant do it
they are good. and those pitchers are very very good