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  1. 06-07-11 11:19 AM #1
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    Default I seriously don't know WTF most of you are thinking?

    Seriously - those of you that think the way to gamble is by picking 10 games a day or going all in after you have lost a few games boggle my mind. If you are picking or playing that many games a day you are either going to go on a terrible losing streak and lose your entire bankroll, or you are only going to win short term and then hit a losing streak

    Those of you that go " all in " or are on a losing streak and suddenly bet a huge bet to make up for losses are not good gamblers either Reading through some of these threads I see some people making posts that think they are good handicappers, and people following them that think long term they will make money, but frankly those of you that choose to gamble this way will always lose in the long run


    Just my two cents.
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  2. 06-07-11 11:29 AM #2
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    Vin_vermillion what about 5 or 6 games? i can't narrow it down.
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  3. 06-07-11 11:38 AM #3
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    I play about 12 plays a night. If you can pick em go for it. There's no right or wrong way to handicap, as long as you make money every single season.
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  4. 06-07-11 11:38 AM #4
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    Face - are you being serious or sarcastic ? Because I will give you my honest opinion if you want it...

    The other thing I see here is a lot of guys coming on and saying - oh - I am 42-20 on my picks and then start posting and they go into a free fall so I have no idea how they got to 42-20.

    I see a couple decent cappers here but when you pick 10 games a day I dont see how the average Joe has that kind of bank roll to make any real money.

    I have been on and off this forum for a while but only recently started to follow it seriously - that is why I finally made a comment about it.

    I am sure I will get some people that tell me to "suck it" but shit man, I think everyone here is in this to make money and I just dont see how some people here are doing it with the way they choose to wager.
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  5. 06-07-11 11:42 AM #5
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    Lunch can I ask you something and get a real answer? Unless you have a huge banroll I dont see how you are making much money or winning -

    but what do you win in an average season, and do you have a large bankroll?
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  6. 06-07-11 11:47 AM #6
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    Let's get it I
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  7. 06-07-11 11:53 AM #7
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    I'll be back with my 3-5 picks later. Not saying anyone should follow me personally either on my picks but slow and steady is the way to bet imho
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  8. 06-07-11 11:54 AM #8
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    I would agree with you but I would just qualify that, if you are spending a lot of time handicapping, looking into multiple variables and angles, and researching the hell out of each and every game and find many games you like. Then I would say play all those games.

    But if your handicapping is limited and one-dimensional, I would limit my picks to one or two games a day.

    The depth of your handicapping is directly related to the amount of games you should be playing, if this makes any sense.
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  9. 06-07-11 12:21 PM #9
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    Million I guess I dont have a problem with that if you have a large bankroll or are making very small bets... I just find it hard to believe anyone has the ability to hit all those games each and every day Again. Jmho
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    I can't comment about guys who make 10+ picks a day as I don't follow or read those threads, but I have to admit the "all in" bet in a heated moment after a bad beat is a huge mistake win or loose and i've seen it done more than once here.
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    Depends on your average wager size as well. I would bet much more on an NBA/NFL point spread than I ever would on an MLB game. Baseball also lends itself to more situational angles because of starting pitching, the high volume of games, weather, and the variability of the sport itself. So it's probably the sport where it's possible to play the highest volume of games in a day and still be profitable. It's more forgiving.
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    1-3 games a day is what I do...
    Anything more and I found I end up losing money.
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    how does anyone have time to handicap all these angles available on a daily basis? does anyone work around here? i've lost $140 this baseball season, and i think i am done. i don't have the time or the desire to handicap games and still lose.
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    Doesn't matter how many games you bet on a day. Its called money management, you set yourself unit sizes or a certain percentage of your bankroll to bet with. People who bet on more games dont have as much on a game as say the person who is only betting a few.

    Everyone has there own way
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    To each his own
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    vin- no i was serious, i would love your opinion of how many plays a night and how many games a night, just because i have only been gambling for a year, if i play less games i have to be really sure. yesterdays i was really sure about phillies -1.5 (w) and mariners (l). i was just wondering what you think is a good amount of baseball games and if that includes totals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    vin- no i was serious, i would love your opinion of how many plays a night and how many games a night, just because i have only been gambling for a year, if i play less games i have to be really sure. yesterdays i was really sure about phillies -1.5 (w) and mariners (l). i was just wondering what you think is a good amount of baseball games and if that includes totals.
    I would be suprised if anyone can consistently have high confidence in more than 2-3 plays a day on a big card, with maybe another 3-4 lesser plays. Claims of high confidence in more than that implies to me that the capper is overestimating their edge or doesn't really know how to quantify a pick.
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    I'm luckily following a few systems, b/c other than those my own picks are not making me any money.
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    You can cap all you want, but all you end up with is who should win the game not who WILL win the game. Just like a horse race.
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    The best way to bet baseball is momentum. If a team is winning bet it to keep on winning. If a team is losing bet not to win. It takes me about 2 min. a day to make my picks. I have been doing it this way for over 20 years. If you don't believe me try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wade1 View Post
    The best way to bet baseball is momentum. If a team is winning bet it to keep on winning. If a team is losing bet not to win. It takes me about 2 min. a day to make my picks. I have been doing it this way for over 20 years. If you don't believe me try it.
    You could argue that 20 years of betting experience makes up for a lot of the day to day capping work. Experience is a big time saver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    You could argue that 20 years of betting experience makes up for a lot of the day to day capping work. Experience is a big time saver.
    This is so true. Compared to capping NBA you have to ask yourself stupid questions like..."are they going to try tonight???" or "How much effort..." Baseball seems to be different and momentum and series momentum comes into play. I'm only still learning the nuances of betting baseball and gauging what's important so someone like me will rely more on stats/trends/numbers, because that's what I gravitate towards.
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    Tonite game. Minn W5 in row Clev L5 and Clev is favorite -135 last I looked. It took me about 2 sec to make this bet
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    I agree with million2one, if you spend a lot of time researching, analyzing, and capping games and seem to be correct on your picks, there is no limit to how many you pick, as long as you have good money management and do not make stupid risks that cost your bankroll because of a simple mistake, where you find yourself in a huge hole and then start to get desperate.
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  25. 06-07-11 03:48 PM #25
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    Just like you can't understand some people who play MANY games per day, Some people just dont Understand why some only play SOME of the games.

    Just personal taste and they will always stick to what they are comfortable with and what they will profit from.

    good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAZ View Post
    Doesn't matter how many games you bet on a day. Its called money management, you set yourself unit sizes or a certain percentage of your bankroll to bet with. People who bet on more games dont have as much on a game as say the person who is only betting a few.

    Everyone has there own way
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  27. 06-07-11 03:52 PM #27
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    I agree though with you as well Vin_ver, I have been on and off this forum for years, and its amazing how many come in here and proclaim "I am the ultimate capper bla bla" and then you see the picks, and follow them for a short while just to check the stats, and they don't add up. I would really love to see the great cappers post the actual wagers and results, which some do.

    I guess everybody is different, because some that claim they are "good cappers" like to hide and say oh I don't post my picks or give out details but they claim they are swimming in money. My belief, if you really are doing amazing, and you are here on a forum, why not share some of the angles, other ways to look at a game, etc? You are not hurting anybody, and helping each other which is what I think a forum could be about.

    You don't have to follow somebody, but it seems many on here do, they see a guy's picking stats, and then they start to trail at their own risk, and the guy goes 4 for 15 on picks and that person just lost their bankroll because they got wishful.

    I love to share ideas, debate about games, etc, and willing to share any information I have to make everybody a better capper, so we all win money!

    Goodluck to everybody on here that gives their opinion because that is awesome.
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    I agree as well with Sam because sometimes you see a person pick 3 games a day maybe MAX, and if they win 2 out of 3, then they are doing great and good for them.

    Or you see somebody picking 10 games, hoping to hit 6 of 10 and sometimes they can, again it all depends on the indivudal person, the bankroll, the management system they use, the risk they want, and what they have as an ultimate goal.
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    Yeah as said everyone has their own way I personally usually pick 5-8 games a day and it works for me so I'll stick to it.
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    Think it really just depends on your style Vin, someone making bad picks is gonna lose over time whether he makes one bet or ten everyday, a friend of mine bets on MLB and makes a nice living from it, he never bets on the favorite and has a few pitchers he never goes against, otherwise he's betting on 70% of the games that get played.
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